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Soybean oil affects hypothalamus, causes genetic changes in mice: study (2020)

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Re: Soybean oil affects hypothalamus, causes genetic changes in mice: study (2020)

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I'm not obese. I have a family history of obesity. On the contrary, I am a bit underweight, and I have tried very hard to gain weight and have never managed to accomplish much. What are obese people eating that I'm not eating? What foods are high in soybean oil?

Re: Soybean oil affects hypothalamus, causes genetic changes in mice: study (2020)

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In mice . Let's temper the usual nutritional conspiracy allegations and grand proclamations of effects on humans until someone trained and knowledgable provides an interpretation of this study. Most of these rodent studies end up not being applicable to humans anyway.

Agreed.

From the post:

> A caveat for readers concerned about their most recent meal is that this study was conducted on mice, and mouse studies do not always translate to the same results in humans.

Re: Soybean oil affects hypothalamus, causes genetic changes in mice: study (2020)

#14
TLDR; I spent way too long thinking about this in the short time I looked at it. I still want to post my rambling but at the same time take it all with a good dash of salt.

That title though. Why does the UoC feel the need to use clickbait titles?

I guess it becomes a mouthful when it is "America's most consumed cooking oil, which is soybean oil, causes genetic changes in the brain."

But my first though is ... I've never bought soybean oil afaik. Is soybean oil vegetable oil? Because I buy vegetable oil.

Ah clarification later in the post "Additionally, the team notes the findings only apply to soybean oil — not to other soy products or to other vegetable oils."

The difficult part is that most of the things I consume that use soybean oil I don't have a choice in what oil they used. Sure I can not eat those chicken nuggets but the easier solution would be to change the manufacturing process to use something better right?

Re: Soybean oil affects hypothalamus, causes genetic changes in mice: study (2020)

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What is soybean oil traditionally called in the US? I've never actually seen "soybean oil" myself (though it surely exists). Is this the same as "vegetable oil"?

It is indeed frequently sold as "Vegetable Oil", which is a generic term.

However, if you read the Ingredients, you'll find that most Vegetable oils are composed of mostly, or pure, Soybean Oil.

Re: Soybean oil affects hypothalamus, causes genetic changes in mice: study (2020)

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post #9

In mice . Let's temper the usual nutritional conspiracy allegations and grand proclamations of effects on humans until someone trained and knowledgable provides an interpretation of this study. Most of these rodent studies end up not being applicable to humans anyway.

Do you have a source for the claim that most studies done in mice don’t hold up? As far as I know, mice are quite a good proxy, although there are some differences. It seems like it would be a complete waste of time to study mice if most results didn’t hold.

Re: Soybean oil affects hypothalamus, causes genetic changes in mice: study (2020)

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Practically live on google scholar past two years, hope they never stop it.

https://scholar.google.com/scholar?as_vis=1&q=Sladek+Soybean

Two thoughts, be wary of academics with "specialties" until their work is reproduced and/or peer reviewed. Also people are not exactly rodents so they need to reproduce this in humans which is understandably far more difficult.

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