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One in three young people say they felt happier during lockdown

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Re: One in three young people say they felt happier during lockdown

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Post by TheFreim »

coldtea wrote: post #27
amcoastal wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Leave it to an old person to yell about technology ruining people while denying the simple science that some people might feel differently about socialization than others.

And leave it to a young person to welcome any change as progress, and see technology not as a tool, but as a good in itself. > while denying the simple science that some people might feel differently about socialization than others. Yeah, It certainly is just "differently", can't be worse. That's why depression is sky high among the youngs, loneliness and isolation is reported as having rocketed, and so on (and that'…

I'm a young fellow and I would generally agree with you. I'm sick of the rejection of people's opinions because they're "old" (aka more experienced). Beginning to take the advice and views of my elders seriously is what I think has helped make me so much more happy in my day to day life. I feel like I've been able to skip over many of the troubles my peers face.

Re: One in three young people say they felt happier during lockdown

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Post by dv_dt »

lemmsjid wrote: post #31
pembrook wrote: post #19

So 1 in 3 felt happier, 1 in 3 felt more depressed, and the remaining 1 in 3 felt no major change. Sounds pretty much like a normal (gaussian) distribution, or basically a non-story. Guessing if they measured satisfaction on a scale, the majority were clustered near the "no major change" camp, as with any gaussian curve. As we already know, it turns out humans can adapt to things. By phrasing the headline result as "…

The article contextualizes itself at the beginning. A large number of people believe the effect of the lockdowns on children was not a normal distribution but was skewed negative. So a normal distribution is news. This does not discount your argument that emphasizing the positive side of the distribution is clickbait, but if it is positioning itself as emphasizing that positive side to a population who thinks it is a…

When data was reviewed, the effect in suicides among school age children was that it was significantly lower despite anti-lockdown spokespeople claiming it was higher. The shocking thing was that thisj was not even close in the data.

Re: One in three young people say they felt happier during lockdown

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Post by kolbe »

pembrook wrote: post #19

So 1 in 3 felt happier, 1 in 3 felt more depressed, and the remaining 1 in 3 felt no major change. Sounds pretty much like a normal (gaussian) distribution, or basically a non-story. Guessing if they measured satisfaction on a scale, the majority were clustered near the "no major change" camp, as with any gaussian curve. As we already know, it turns out humans can adapt to things. By phrasing the headline result as "…

It’s also a survey, which is largely useless in the discovery of real information. Whereas in my county, ER visits for teen attempted suicides are up over 100% from pre-Covid. That seems more like actual evidence that something is wrong here

Re: One in three young people say they felt happier during lockdown

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Post by DocTomoe »

dv_dt wrote: post #53
lemmsjid wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The article contextualizes itself at the beginning. A large number of people believe the effect of the lockdowns on children was not a normal distribution but was skewed negative. So a normal distribution is news. This does not discount your argument that emphasizing the positive side of the distribution is clickbait, but if it is positioning itself as emphasizing that positive side to a population who thinks it is a…

When data was reviewed, the effect in suicides among school age children was that it was significantly lower despite anti-lockdown spokespeople claiming it was higher. The shocking thing was that thisj was not even close in the data.

Political leaders wanted kids back in school so parents would be able to go back to work.

At the same time, the media starts talking about how bad homeschooling and lockdowns are for kids mental health and suicide rates.

Consent is always manufactured.

Re: One in three young people say they felt happier during lockdown

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Post by shadowgovt »

dv_dt wrote: post #53
lemmsjid wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The article contextualizes itself at the beginning. A large number of people believe the effect of the lockdowns on children was not a normal distribution but was skewed negative. So a normal distribution is news. This does not discount your argument that emphasizing the positive side of the distribution is clickbait, but if it is positioning itself as emphasizing that positive side to a population who thinks it is a…

When data was reviewed, the effect in suicides among school age children was that it was significantly lower despite anti-lockdown spokespeople claiming it was higher. The shocking thing was that thisj was not even close in the data.

Do you have a source regarding the suicide rate you can share?

Everything I'm finding suggests they went up (the CDC "morbidity and mortality weekly report" indicated a 22% spike in 2020 relative to 2019).

Re: One in three young people say they felt happier during lockdown

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Post by geoduck14 »

DocTomoe wrote: post #56
dv_dt wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When data was reviewed, the effect in suicides among school age children was that it was significantly lower despite anti-lockdown spokespeople claiming it was higher. The shocking thing was that thisj was not even close in the data.

Political leaders wanted kids back in school so parents would be able to go back to work. At the same time, the media starts talking about how bad homeschooling and lockdowns are for kids mental health and suicide rates. Consent is always manufactured.

>Political leaders wanted

I feel the need to intervene here. The only thing political leaders want... is to get reelected. That is there job. To get reelected.

Sure, in certain cases, a politician has kids and wants their kids back in school. But in this example the line should go:

Political leaders had constituents that wanted kids back in school, so the leaders worked to make that happen.

Re: One in three young people say they felt happier during lockdown

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Post by rmbyrro »

pembrook wrote: post #19

So 1 in 3 felt happier, 1 in 3 felt more depressed, and the remaining 1 in 3 felt no major change. Sounds pretty much like a normal (gaussian) distribution, or basically a non-story. Guessing if they measured satisfaction on a scale, the majority were clustered near the "no major change" camp, as with any gaussian curve. As we already know, it turns out humans can adapt to things. By phrasing the headline result as "…

As any newssian distributuon would predict: journalists fabricating stories to sell clicks.

Re: One in three young people say they felt happier during lockdown

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Post by mwigdahl »

jmyeet wrote: post #21

The paramters: > Ms Soneson and colleagues explored this issue using the OxWell Student Survey, a large, school-based survey of students aged eight to 18 years living in England. More than 17,000 students took part in the June/July 2020 survey, A lot of people have spoken about the negative effects on children of lockdowns, social isolation and so forth. I'm glad to see a study pointing to the positives. Why? Because…

While I don't doubt that bullying is tolerated in a lot of schools in the US, my son was recently physically bullied and the administration was very quick in setting up opportunities for natural intervention (doing so in a way that didn't single him out even further as weak or a snitch).

In addition, your statement that girls are being treated as expendable to promote male outcomes flies in the face of the clear evidence that the current US educational system favors girls over boys -- heavily by 8th grade (https://ed.stanford.edu/news/new-stanford-education-study-sh...). _Why_ this is happening is not super clear, but the current system is certainly not throwing girls under the bus to improve outcomes for boys.

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