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Russian forces invade Ukraine after Putin orders attack

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Re: Russian forces invade Ukraine after Putin orders attack

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Post by k41da »

unityByFreedom wrote: post #104
dealforager wrote: post #8

I've worked at tech companies that despise helping the US military. Please understand that the world is complex and although all superpowers have done terrible things, helping the US is the only way our children will live in a peaceful world. This isn't about democrats or republicans, the future of humanity will be decided in the next decade.

We aren't sending troops to Ukraine so that's irrelevant.

Give it 72 hours. The news cycle is leading the announcements tomorrow and the announcements that will inevitably come next week. If the news is already talking WW3 (and yes, they are) then it won't be long before the UN deploys it's own "peacekeeping forces" and the world goes hot.

Re: Russian forces invade Ukraine after Putin orders attack

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Post by VictorPath »

icedistilled wrote: post #34
refurb wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would argue the US needs to batten down the hatches and become more isolationist. Let Europe deal with European problems. It's clear from the last 70 years, since WW2, that the US meddling in others' affairs only leads to death, destruction and more negative sentiment against the US. If LBJ stuck to his promise, we could have avoid a ton of mess in Vietnam: "We are not about to send American boys nine or ten thousa…

A similar sentiment was expressed in the 1930s.

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Re: Russian forces invade Ukraine after Putin orders attack

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Post by BasDirks »

philliphaydon wrote: post #85
voisin wrote: post #61

Has China weighed in at all?

China already stated they support Russia 100% because they need Russia to defend against the west. There was a document posted by Chinese media yesterday stating how to censor Russia content. Anything pro Russia to be promoted and anything against to be scrubbed. Edit: This was screen grabbed from Weibo which was posted by Horizon News. (sorry got the wrong news agency) https://twitter.com/lingli_vienna/status/149609…

Sources?

Re: Russian forces invade Ukraine after Putin orders attack

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Post by krapp »

LoveGracePeace wrote: post #116
cglan wrote: post #3

It’s sad but my father always told me that the good times we’ve had are unprecedented and they can end faster than we think. I never believed him growing up, institutions and America seemed infallible. It’s sad to say but I think with global warming, covid, and the general decline of American soft power we’ll see more and more global turmoil My heart goes out to Ukraine and its people

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Re: Russian forces invade Ukraine after Putin orders attack

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Post by SCLeo »

philliphaydon wrote: post #85
voisin wrote: post #61

Has China weighed in at all?

China already stated they support Russia 100% because they need Russia to defend against the west. There was a document posted by Chinese media yesterday stating how to censor Russia content. Anything pro Russia to be promoted and anything against to be scrubbed. Edit: This was screen grabbed from Weibo which was posted by Horizon News. (sorry got the wrong news agency) https://twitter.com/lingli_vienna/status/149609…

Source?

Re: Russian forces invade Ukraine after Putin orders attack

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Post by forlorn »

osynavets wrote: post #115

Kharkiv, 25 miles to Russia. Just want to say that we are strong, we are confident about our army and I hope that everything will be fine. I'm sorry that I share content like this on this platform, but that's my reality

Stay safe, brother, my thoughts and prayers are with you. I'm Russian and wholeheartedly despise this outrageous war crime act of our so-called government.

Re: Russian forces invade Ukraine after Putin orders attack

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Post by woodruffw »

dealforager wrote: post #8

I've worked at tech companies that despise helping the US military. Please understand that the world is complex and although all superpowers have done terrible things, helping the US is the only way our children will live in a peaceful world. This isn't about democrats or republicans, the future of humanity will be decided in the next decade.

Any abject suffering that occurs over the next hours, days, and weeks doesn't excuse the historical record of abject suffering imposed by the US military.

It's perfectly consistent to be opposed to Russia's invasion of Ukraine and also reject the myth that the US's military is the only thing that maintains world peace.

Re: Russian forces invade Ukraine after Putin orders attack

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Post by CameronNemo »

evilyach wrote: post #125
NewJazz wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Russians (some of them, to clarify) associate the current Ukrainian regime with Nazism/fascism. After all, far right groups were a major part of the 2014 revolution/putsch. https://crimethinc.com/2022/02/15/war-and-anarchists-anti-au... (note: the disinformation section is especially relevant)

Why are you saying that? Not all Russians are brainwashed by state propaganda. I think very few Russians who read Hackernews actually support what is going on right now, if any. To be honest, me and all of the people around me thought that this is too crazy to happen, but here we are.

Russians who read HN are probably in the minority though, right?

And yeah not everyone listens to propaganda, and there is going to be a lot of diversity of opinion, but propaganda does work and a large percent of the population are going to get duped.

Re: Russian forces invade Ukraine after Putin orders attack

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Post by uejfiweun »

Does anyone have any projections for how this war will go? Is the Ukrainian military powerful? Will this turn into a guerilla war, or will it go the way of total war? Or will it result in total capitulation?

And another key question. What will Western governments actually do? What if the war gets really bad? Does the West actually have the balls to put real, biting sanctions on the regime? And will this crash the economy?

Re: Russian forces invade Ukraine after Putin orders attack

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Post by 0xdeadb00f »

ginja wrote: post #6

I just woke up to this news and I'm wondering if it's possible for Apple and Google to brick all Russian phones? This would probably be more effective on their population at large than any form of sanctions.

Even if they could I think this is a pretty stupid idea if you think about for a half hour or so.
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