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Re: Russian forces invade Ukraine after Putin orders attack

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When the thug has nuclear weapons, responses get a lot trickier.

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Congratulations you just ended human life on the planet, would you like to play again?

Re: Russian forces invade Ukraine after Putin orders attack

#84
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I just woke up to this news and I'm wondering if it's possible for Apple and Google to brick all Russian phones? This would probably be more effective on their population at large than any form of sanctions.

Russian tanks and artillery don't use the Google Play Store. You're witnessing a mechanized land war in Ukraine, Silicon Valley won't solve this one.

Solve? No. But what is stopping them from getting a few kicks in?

Re: Russian forces invade Ukraine after Putin orders attack

#85
post #61

Has China weighed in at all?

China already stated they support Russia 100% because they need Russia to defend against the west. There was a document posted by Chinese media yesterday stating how to censor Russia content. Anything pro Russia to be promoted and anything against to be scrubbed.

Edit: This was screen grabbed from Weibo which was posted by Horizon News. (sorry got the wrong news agency)

https://twitter.com/lingli_vienna/status/1496097706493816833

https://www.businessinsider.com/china-news-outlet-ukraine-co...

Re: Russian forces invade Ukraine after Putin orders attack

#86
post #6

I just woke up to this news and I'm wondering if it's possible for Apple and Google to brick all Russian phones? This would probably be more effective on their population at large than any form of sanctions.

Russian tanks and artillery don't use the Google Play Store. You're witnessing a mechanized land war in Ukraine, Silicon Valley won't solve this one.

> Russian tanks and artillery don't use the Google Play Store.

But the wives and children of those who move them do. People in the West don't seem to notice a crucial aspect of modern Russia: extended families of those in charge live in the West. They study in Stanford and Harvard, mingle in Aspen, have holiday homes in the Hamptons. Russia is merely a piggy bank to finance that lifestyle. They are at the mercy of Western governments, because they've turned Russia into a stagnating shithole that even at its best is far below the upper-middle class standard in the West. Without access to Western resources, from mansions in Knightsbridge to accounts on Instagram, all that looted money becomes worthless.

All you need to do is let them sleep in the bed they've made. Freeze bank accounts, confiscate property, deny visas. Make them live that global jet-set lifestyle in Rostov oblast.

Re: Russian forces invade Ukraine after Putin orders attack

#87
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I just woke up to this news and I'm wondering if it's possible for Apple and Google to brick all Russian phones? This would probably be more effective on their population at large than any form of sanctions.

Even if it's possible, for Apple, it would be an utterly disastrous thing to do. Imagine the damage to its reputation. If they were to do it in this situation, the argument would go, what about other situations? What about all the phones they sell in China, for example. Are there circumstances where they should brick all US Democrat or Republican phones? It would be the end of Apple, and that's why it would (hopefull…

why does everyone go for these slippery slope type arguments all the time. you dont need to worry about hypotheticals.

Re: Russian forces invade Ukraine after Putin orders attack

#88

I've worked at tech companies that despise helping the US military. Please understand that the world is complex and although all superpowers have done terrible things, helping the US is the only way our children will live in a peaceful world. This isn't about democrats or republicans, the future of humanity will be decided in the next decade.

> helping the US is the only way

When people are convinced that there is only one way, then the propaganda worked.

Re: Russian forces invade Ukraine after Putin orders attack

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I am curious, what do Russians think of this. Does anyone support him? Is it completely just one maniac with his friends running this. Is his propaganda that effective that Russians agree with any of it. I think if anyone can stop him, it has to be ordinary Russians. I don’t see sanctions or warnings from Biden or EU doing anything. And they will never directly step in and protect the Ukranian people.

Russians (some of them, to clarify) associate the current Ukrainian regime with Nazism/fascism. After all, far right groups were a major part of the 2014 revolution/putsch. https://crimethinc.com/2022/02/15/war-and-anarchists-anti-au... (note: the disinformation section is especially relevant)

> Russians associate the current Ukrainian regime with Nazism/fascism.

I guess you are speaking for majority of Russians. Is there an independent survey to back it up?

Re: Russian forces invade Ukraine after Putin orders attack

#90

I am for keeping Ukraine as a neutral buffer separating Russia and the US. NATO proposed Ukrainian and Georgian membership of NATO in 2005-2008, in the clear knowledge that this would destabilize the situation. France, Germany, and others were against this. The proposal began the issue. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJBQikfYyKs We then openly backed the 2014 putsch in Kiev, an open act of aggression just as irrespo…

Will the people downvoting this comment mind telling me what is wrong with it? I'm not a Russian apologist, just a fan of history, and am trying to understand why so many people reject this narrative. edit: Now I am downvoted too just for asking..? This just makes me think that there is not a solid answer?

Maybe because the U.S. military isn't bombing the Ukrainian cities right now?

And it wasn't the U.S.A. who sent troops to the Crimea and annexed in 2014?

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