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Post by bryanlarsen »

lowkey wrote: post #139
bryanlarsen wrote: post #127

Canadians have a right to protest. Canadians also have a right to the enjoyment of their property. The former does not override the latter, and the latter was severely infringed upon by the occupiers. These protests caused hundreds of millions of dollars worth of damage. There is a $300M lawsuit against the occupiers in Ottawa, similar ones will happen against the occupiers of the Ambassador bridge. The bank accounts…

> The freezing via the EMA would thaw after the EMA expires in a few days. The PM is on the record admitting he is considering extending the Emergency Measures Act, potentially for months. His Minister of Finance has already declared she now plans to make some of the financial controls permanent. Whether or not you believe these measures to be appropriate, it is incorrect to claim they will expire in the next few day…

The EMA can only be applied for a maximum of 30 days. If he tries to reapply it, he's going to have a lot of trouble getting NDP support to do so.

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Post by alricb »

john_moscow wrote: post #87
defaultname wrote: post #4

"In just three weeks of honking, blocked streets and bridges, bouncy castles and flag waving, this peaceful protest" Aside from a billion dollars+ in trade blocked when the protest -- having achieved nothing terrorizing the residents of Ottawa and blasting horns/setting off fireworks around the clock -- branched out to trying to block international borders, they harassed schools, healthcare workers, anyone wearing a…

>Aside from a billion dollars+ in trade blocked when the protest -- having achieved nothing terrorizing the residents of Ottawa and blasting horns/setting off fireworks around the clock I don't think, it is entirely fair to blame it all on one side. What the government could have done is meet with the protestors and solve the problem diplomatically. Agree on a reasonable compromise, like suspending some restrictions…

The Federal government can't agree to compromises on healthcare matters; that's provincial jurisdiction. It can't agree on compromises on border vaccination; that's US jurisdiction.

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Post by ayngg »

_aleph2c_ wrote: post #94

Mike Solana calls this Trudeau's rainbow-colored iron fist: https://www.piratewires.com/p/shock-and-awe?utm_source=url

I wonder if the chaotic noise dominates social awareness because people are simply unaware of the macro trends influencing them, or the more charitable explanation that they are aware they exist but accept they are helpless to change them. Either way, this entire ordeal has basically solidified my position that as a society we are woefully unequipped to solve any of the major problems that threaten us.

People are so preoccupied with the audacity of x doing y that dominates the news cycle, but nobody seems to actually care why x is doing y. They just slap some shallow explanation like they are white supremacists, or they are mad George Floyd was killed because of police brutality and consider that level of understanding to be satisfactory while simultaneously being concerned about how increasingly divided, populist and radicalized western society is becoming.

Re: I was wrong, we need crypto

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Post by pyuser583 »

bryanlarsen wrote: post #135
pyuser583 wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is not true. The occupy movement did block main roads. When they were doing their thing, my drive to work (and back) tripled. BLM did the same. Police need to be able to stop those who break the law, while simultaneously protecting those who are merely protesting. Even if they’re part of the same crowd.

The truckers were allowed to block the roads after promising to only do so for 3 days.

So the police weren’t doing their jobs.

This is especially insane because you can no longer distinguish between “protestors legally protesting” and “protestors illegally blocking critical infrastructure.”

That is very much the government being stupid.

Re: I was wrong, we need crypto

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Post by drewcoo »

HL33tibCe7 wrote: post #81

> the Canadian prime minister imposed martial law on the protestors No, he didn’t.

Technically the War Measures Act, which the Emergencies Act replaced, was not considered martial law either.

We can all understand what this really is in spirit, though, and I don't think anyone is claiming literally that the military is in charge.

Re: I was wrong, we need crypto

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Post by [deleted] »

bryanlarsen wrote: post #127

Canadians have a right to protest. Canadians also have a right to the enjoyment of their property. The former does not override the latter, and the latter was severely infringed upon by the occupiers. These protests caused hundreds of millions of dollars worth of damage. There is a $300M lawsuit against the occupiers in Ottawa, similar ones will happen against the occupiers of the Ambassador bridge. The bank accounts…

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Re: I was wrong, we need crypto

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Post by invalidname »

arcticbull wrote: post #116
jqpabc123 wrote: post #10

... we need crypto Did someone say otherwise? Crypto is an attempt to fulfill a broad yearning for financial freedom. The problem is, as it currently exists --- it just doesn't deliver. Crypto doesn't displace trust, it misplaces it. Instead of trusting government and regulated banks, you end up trusting the unregulated gatekeepers to the block chain --- the exchanges. Who is making sure these gatekeepers are not sel…

> Did someone say otherwise? I will say otherwise. We do not need crypto.

+1. We "might" need what crypto was supposed to do (and even then arguably not). But we don't need what it is: a bloated worthless commodities ponzi scheme.

Furthermore, its been shown governments can track all transactions. Without warrants (since it isn't money). Even for privacy focused funds. I doubt it would be hard for them to freeze account withdrawal and seriously hurt people trying to circumvent the law with crypto.

Re: I was wrong, we need crypto

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Post by guilhas »

arcticbull wrote: post #119
givemeethekeys wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you saying, "no he didn't in theory" or "no he didn't in theory or in practice" ?

No he didn't either way, because that's not what the Emergencies Act is or does. [1, 2] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergencies_Act [2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iPsgfuum2c

So what do you call closing people bank accounts because they donated 50$ to a protest?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10535361/Canadian-M...

Re: I was wrong, we need crypto

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Post by jqpabc123 »

arcticbull wrote: post #116
jqpabc123 wrote: post #10

... we need crypto Did someone say otherwise? Crypto is an attempt to fulfill a broad yearning for financial freedom. The problem is, as it currently exists --- it just doesn't deliver. Crypto doesn't displace trust, it misplaces it. Instead of trusting government and regulated banks, you end up trusting the unregulated gatekeepers to the block chain --- the exchanges. Who is making sure these gatekeepers are not sel…

> Did someone say otherwise? I will say otherwise. We do not need crypto.

The only reason crypto exists is because others needs don't match yours.

The desire and *idea* behind crypto is reasonable. It's just that the implementation falls way short of the idea.

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