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The most annoying part for me is getting tracked against my will. So now it's worse.
Isn't it so strange that if you or I were to do these kinds of things to an individual it would be considered creepy cyber stalking but when companies do it they are rewarded?
Google Tag Manager, the new anti-adblock weapon (2020)
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While impractical, I liked the article's suggestion of blocking the proxies. I'm curious what reaction this would have. Ad blocking users get no content and move to alternatives and stop being users, or would the sites cave and realize having users interacting is more important than all of the data collected.
It's a fine suggestion. If it breaks the site, then I'd call that a broken website and move on. Maybe next time someone points me there, they'll have fixed their critical issue for users who block tracking proxies. I'm okay with not being in the target audience of sites that really want to do this. I've got enough other things to do at less hostile places that my FOMO isn't triggered in the least.
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So in other words you allow some of the largest, worst sites to track you. ;)
Elaborate? I have dnt turned on and am using incognito tabs? Still not good enough?
If anything it probably acts as a datapoint on fingerprinting and actually helps to track you.
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#87it occasionally gets in the way, but does make things a bit more enjoyable (i can now happily click 'allow all tracking' on all the popups not blocked by ublock -- all that lasts until i close the tab).
ideally i should also use something to resist fingerprinting (i.e. randomising fingerprintable features).
Re: Google Tag Manager, the new anti-adblock weapon (2020)
#88"When Private Relay is in use, the user’s device opens up a connection to the first internet relay (also known as the “ingress proxy”).
As the user browses, their original IP address is visible to the first internet relay and to the network they are connected to. However, the website names requested by the user are encrypted and cannot be seen by either party.
The second internet relay (also known as the “egress proxy”) has the role of assigning the Relay IP address they’ll use for the session, decrypting the website name the user has requested and completing the connection.
The second internet relay has no knowledge of the user’s original IP address and receives only enough location information to assign them a Relay IP address that maps to the region they are connecting from, conforming to the IP Address Location preference they selected in Private Relay settings."
[1] https://www.apple.com/privacy/docs/iCloud_Private_Relay_Over...
Re: Google Tag Manager, the new anti-adblock weapon (2020)
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How would you do that? Isn't it the server that talks to Google Tag Manager, not the browser?
Google tag manager in my experience is a script executed by the browser. Then it installs itself in the page and performs the inner payload of user script insertions. It’s a Trojan horse, really. You can block Google tag manager’s embed scripts. I wasn’t aware of a backend integration but it’s certainly possible. Regardless, I use a DNS based ad blocker (pihole) and it takes care of all this stuff. I occasionally nee…
Re: Google Tag Manager, the new anti-adblock weapon (2020)
#90Earlier quoted context omitted.
Google tag manager in my experience is a script executed by the browser. Then it installs itself in the page and performs the inner payload of user script insertions. It’s a Trojan horse, really. You can block Google tag manager’s embed scripts. I wasn’t aware of a backend integration but it’s certainly possible. Regardless, I use a DNS based ad blocker (pihole) and it takes care of all this stuff. I occasionally nee…
> Google tag manager in my experience is a script executed by the browser. Isn't the whole point of this new change that it runs server-side, using a proxy that you install on the website so it uses the same domain? > Regardless, I use a DNS based ad blocker But it's the same domain name isn't it?
Some processing happens on the server, but event data must still be sent to the server-side container first. For now, the "standard" deployment of a server-side is that it receives hits directly from the browser, orchestrated by a traditional client-side container. So the client-side script is still there, just less bloated.
The server-side container has built-in facilities for serving up the client-side container script. Meaning that domain-name blocking will not prevent this. DNS-based also has some issues: Server-Side Containers run in App Engine, blocking them basically means blocking anything running on GCP.