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Exactly. I don't know why everyone including the big tech companies fell for the BLM grift so that they could scam their 'supporters' into taking the money and now running off with their donations which was used to buy properties, mansions, etc. How could they be so gullible?
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Yes, a core te net of the USA was to limit how much democracy black people, poor people and women could have. It's much worse now.... apparently.
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No one said racism or slavery until you did.
If you want to die on the hill, come up with a rebuttal, like why you think black and female humans should not have voting rights
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In the eyes of most people they are the same. Using obvious words in subtle ways makes it hard to people to differentiate. Just as Republicans don't claim to be democrats, defund the police means removing all funding for police, etc.
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https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
(No, this is not a comment about policing. This is a comment about having an internet forum that doesn't burn itself to a crisp. If possible.)
The BLM movement and the BLM organization are different. Much the same way that Americans will all claim to be democrats but less than half will claim to be Democrats.
Well, it seems this 'confusion' has tricked even the biggest companies to not only 'show support' for the movement with their now pointless banners, but also donate to the organisation which basically failed to be held accountable for the missing $60M that was spent on properties. They supported both, including the 'Black Lives Matter Global Network Foundation' . So they were supporting fraudsters all this time?
In general, there are no trademarks on social movements, and it's a tough problem.
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A lot of people who could have raised this issue were shouted at for being racist, anti-black, etc. no matter if their concerns were valid. https://twitter.com/Sean_Kev/status/1488195035418013701
Sean Kevin Campbell's article was some great investigative journalism. Highly recommend reading to anyone interested in deeper knowledge about this controversy. I've seen several pundits (on "both" sides) regurgitate his work inaccurately, so think reading his article directly is important. (article linked in that tweet) https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2022/01/black-lives-matter-f...
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What's wrong with democracy?
It requires people to be educated about what they are voting on. Having people spend time educating themselves wastes a lot of societal time. Voting doesn't scale well so people end up delegating their votes to someone else who usually doesn't have the same exact beliefs and may vote different than themselves. It turns into a popularity contest. The process of making decisions can be slow.
> Voting doesn't scale well
It's scaled amazingly well, far beyond what the creators could have imagined. Billions vote around the world. In the US, without looking up the population in 1776, it's probably scaled 100x.
And it's been, by far, the most successful, free, prosperous, stable, functional form of government in human history. Name any that comes close - any country that has come close in history that isn't a democracy. Name a better form of government, or a country in any time and place that people would prefer to live in. Note the massive migration to democracies. It's like citing Apple Computer as a company that doesn't scale well (except there are other companies in Apple's league, and no other form of government competes with democracy).
The only question is, who is so anxious to tear it down and why?
The BLM movement and the BLM organization are different. Much the same way that Americans will all claim to be democrats but less than half will claim to be Democrats.
Well, it seems this 'confusion' has tricked even the biggest companies to not only 'show support' for the movement with their now pointless banners, but also donate to the organisation which basically failed to be held accountable for the missing $60M that was spent on properties. They supported both, including the 'Black Lives Matter Global Network Foundation' . So they were supporting fraudsters all this time?
It’s not missing, it's the money they reportedly had on hand at last account.
(And if anyone knew it had been spent on properties, it still wouldn't be missing.)
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What's wrong with democracy?
It requires people to be educated about what they are voting on. Having people spend time educating themselves wastes a lot of societal time. Voting doesn't scale well so people end up delegating their votes to someone else who usually doesn't have the same exact beliefs and may vote different than themselves. It turns into a popularity contest. The process of making decisions can be slow.
Is there a reasonable solution to these problems? I feel like without the popularity contest element, that's only more delegating to those who don't necessarily vote the way people would want. Without the delegating, there is stronger requirements on a citizen to educate themselves.
Representative democracy seems to be at the rough point of compromise between these downsides.
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What's wrong with democracy?
Purports to be about consent of the governed, will of the people, popular rule etc. In reality, you can't even prevent your own children from being taught as truth some pseudomoral garbage that maybe 5-10% of the population believes. Basically it transfers power to the most motivated actors, almost regardless of their popularity.
What are you referring to? Also, you can home-school your kids. Or just move someplace where nobody cares.
It's not perfect, but name something that gives you remotely as much freedom and power over your government.
Many millions have given their lives, physically or temporally, to making it better, to give you and I the historically unequalled freedom, security, and prosperity we were born into. If you see problems - and so do I - how about helping make it better rather than sitting around criticizing while others do the work?