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Re: Difficult situation on campus: traffic jam of food delivery robots

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Post by rad_gruchalski »

josephcsible wrote: post #92
rad_gruchalski wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Why don’t you take 2 minutes and push them to the side of the sidewalk if you care so much about ADA access? Because you’ll be doing this over and over again. How about those companies educate their users how to behave in a neighbourhood where those people are basically guests?

That may be a valid argument to not push them all to the side every time, but it isn't a valid argument for intentionally worsening the problem.

How does the gp make the problem worse? Instead of gently moving them over to the side of the sidewalk, they toss it to the side of the sidewalk.

End result is the same, they’re out of the way… Just a bit more rage maybe in the process.

Re: Difficult situation on campus: traffic jam of food delivery robots

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Post by nikanj »

Cthulhu_ wrote: post #79
_fullpint wrote: post #13

Absolutely hate these scooters from an ADA prospective. My neighborhood is a mostly quiet one near the center of a large city, where there are a lot of mothers who push their kids in strollers, older folks with canes, and some people even in wheelchairs. On the weekends -- sometimes the weekdays as well depending on the time of the year -- the city gets flooded with both tourists, and suburbanites who want to go to a…

The county should act; assign parking spaces for these things, fine the companies if they find any outside of the designated spaces. The companies can sort it out with their customers. We are seeing the same thing with electric scooters and bikes (and they get torched sometimes), they get parked anywhere and the county's on board with it because it's "green". This was NOT as much of a problem with rental bikes in e.g…

We gave about 95% of the street for cars+parking cars, and are now frustrated that the sidewalks aren’t wide enough for mixed use.

There would be no issues with fitting the bikes and the scooters, if the middle of the street was also freely available

Re: Difficult situation on campus: traffic jam of food delivery robots

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Post by nkrisc »

throwawaynay wrote: post #31
nkrisc wrote: post #26

I understand this person is making a judgement on the state of mind of others, so it may not at all be accurate with regards to the people actually clearing the scooters, but I found this interesting nonetheless, that the author assumes this: > I just observed a couple of students clearing a path out of pity for the robots. I understand why people might feel pity for robots. People become attached to all sorts of ina…

maybe they pity the students who are going to get cold pizza 2 hours late?

Yes, pity them, not the robots. And then invoice the company for services rendered clearing the obstructions.

Re: Difficult situation on campus: traffic jam of food delivery robots

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Post by coldpie »

josephcsible wrote: post #98
coldpie wrote: post #33

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Yes, let's make innocent people crash their cars! That'll teach the people who left the scooters there a lesson!

No one cares if pedestrians have to navigate around these things. But if people have to get out of their 4,000 lb steel cages to move these things out of the way, there will be consequences.

Re: Difficult situation on campus: traffic jam of food delivery robots

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Post by X6S1x6Okd1st »

JaimeThompson wrote: post #82
thepasswordis wrote: post #55

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> Usually when I see this, I just knock the things over and push them out of the way. So you make the problem worse ? Why don’t you take 2 minutes and push them to the side of the sidewalk if you care so much about ADA access? You can fix the problem you are encountering, and the people you want to protect CANT. You are choosing to make the problem worse for them? Why? I live in a major downtown full of these scooter…

>So you make the problem worse? It might make the problem worse in the short term but maybe those leaving them in the middle will move them out of the way in the future possibly reducing the issue long term.

Good old accelerationism.

Re: Difficult situation on campus: traffic jam of food delivery robots

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Post by [deleted] »

coldpie wrote: post #33
_fullpint wrote: post #13

Absolutely hate these scooters from an ADA prospective. My neighborhood is a mostly quiet one near the center of a large city, where there are a lot of mothers who push their kids in strollers, older folks with canes, and some people even in wheelchairs. On the weekends -- sometimes the weekdays as well depending on the time of the year -- the city gets flooded with both tourists, and suburbanites who want to go to a…

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Re: Difficult situation on campus: traffic jam of food delivery robots

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Post by [deleted] »

thepasswordis wrote: post #55
_fullpint wrote: post #13

Absolutely hate these scooters from an ADA prospective. My neighborhood is a mostly quiet one near the center of a large city, where there are a lot of mothers who push their kids in strollers, older folks with canes, and some people even in wheelchairs. On the weekends -- sometimes the weekdays as well depending on the time of the year -- the city gets flooded with both tourists, and suburbanites who want to go to a…

> Usually when I see this, I just knock the things over and push them out of the way. So you make the problem worse ? Why don’t you take 2 minutes and push them to the side of the sidewalk if you care so much about ADA access? You can fix the problem you are encountering, and the people you want to protect CANT. You are choosing to make the problem worse for them? Why? I live in a major downtown full of these scooter…

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Re: Difficult situation on campus: traffic jam of food delivery robots

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Post by josephcsible »

pengaru wrote: post #109
josephcsible wrote: post #98

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Yes, let's make innocent people crash their cars! That'll teach the people who left the scooters there a lesson!

> Yes, let's make innocent people crash their cars! That'll teach the people who left the scooters there a lesson! The cars are insured, the insurance companies will pursue the owners of the scooters. It's the negative feedback required to compel scooter companies to operate more responsibly.

Sometimes people get hurt or killed in car crashes, which just having insurance doesn't magically fix. And besides, if I were the scooter company, I'd be going after you who intentionally threw the scooter into the road, not after the last rider who parked it somewhere inconsiderate but not dangerous.

Re: Difficult situation on campus: traffic jam of food delivery robots

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Post by josephcsible »

rad_gruchalski wrote: post #111
josephcsible wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That may be a valid argument to not push them all to the side every time, but it isn't a valid argument for intentionally worsening the problem.

How does the gp make the problem worse? Instead of gently moving them over to the side of the sidewalk, they toss it to the side of the sidewalk. End result is the same, they’re out of the way… Just a bit more rage maybe in the process.

By knocking them over, they're now wide enough to be in the way even on the side.
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