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Re: Difficult situation on campus: traffic jam of food delivery robots

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Post by Robotbeat »

rosndo wrote: post #84
Robotbeat wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Riffing on your comment, but I think there has been a general increase in antisociality in the last few years (especially since the pandemic, which has traumatized society). Like people leaving scooters haphazardly lying around or you pushing over delivery robots instead of pushing them out of the way. People feel more and more justified to engage in antisocial behavior. And it feeds on itself. You see this as being…

> but I think there has been a general increase in antisociality in the last few years (especially since the pandemic, which has traumatized society) It makes sense that people who feel that they’ve been unfairly imprisoned in their homes by the rest of society would feel rather bitter about that. To restore faith societies could take steps to compensate those worst hit by pandemic measures (i.e young people), so far…

Oh, it’s that and also anger at folks who don’t take prosocial steps like wearing a mask, justifying being antisocial to “those” kind of people…

…and the blame cycle goes round and round. Break the cycle! Be nice to people who don’t deserve it!

Re: Difficult situation on campus: traffic jam of food delivery robots

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Post by josephcsible »

rad_gruchalski wrote: post #88
thepasswordis wrote: post #55

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> Usually when I see this, I just knock the things over and push them out of the way. So you make the problem worse ? Why don’t you take 2 minutes and push them to the side of the sidewalk if you care so much about ADA access? You can fix the problem you are encountering, and the people you want to protect CANT. You are choosing to make the problem worse for them? Why? I live in a major downtown full of these scooter…

> Why don’t you take 2 minutes and push them to the side of the sidewalk if you care so much about ADA access? Because you’ll be doing this over and over again. How about those companies educate their users how to behave in a neighbourhood where those people are basically guests?

That may be a valid argument to not push them all to the side every time, but it isn't a valid argument for intentionally worsening the problem.

Re: Difficult situation on campus: traffic jam of food delivery robots

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Post by watwut »

_fullpint wrote: post #13

Absolutely hate these scooters from an ADA prospective. My neighborhood is a mostly quiet one near the center of a large city, where there are a lot of mothers who push their kids in strollers, older folks with canes, and some people even in wheelchairs. On the weekends -- sometimes the weekdays as well depending on the time of the year -- the city gets flooded with both tourists, and suburbanites who want to go to a…

> The side walk that the strollers, canes and wheelchairs use on a daily basis. Usually when I see this, I just knock the things over and push them out of the way.

Way better approach is to take phone and send complain to company that runs these. At least in our city, they do in fact end contracts with people who park them wrong. The threat and actual drivers who lost the ability to use scooters makes others park better.

Re: Difficult situation on campus: traffic jam of food delivery robots

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Post by npteljes »

shiftpgdn wrote: post #74
AuthorizedCust wrote: post #18

I work at a different university that has these same units. Watching them cross streets is comical. They are excessively conservative. While backing up one time (on a sidewalk), one gently ran into me. I should have flopped and cried out to risk management.

They're frequently driven by people making $1-3/hr in Colombia.

Now that's something else. Do you remember where you read that? I'd love to know more.

Re: Difficult situation on campus: traffic jam of food delivery robots

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Post by Cthulhu_ »

BurningFrog wrote: post #48
nkrisc wrote: post #26

I understand this person is making a judgement on the state of mind of others, so it may not at all be accurate with regards to the people actually clearing the scooters, but I found this interesting nonetheless, that the author assumes this: > I just observed a couple of students clearing a path out of pity for the robots. I understand why people might feel pity for robots. People become attached to all sorts of ina…

The robots are feeding hungry people. It's all about people in the end.

Hungry but rich and privileged people, to be precise.

Re: Difficult situation on campus: traffic jam of food delivery robots

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Post by duxup »

fishtacos wrote: post #58
duxup wrote: post #46

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I think the we're all sympathetic to the idea that one person's carelessness creates an impossible problem for someone else. >Don't donate free labor to corporations. That's absurd, someone takes two seconds to move an object so someone else can get their food on time. That's just being a good human rather that sweating about "free labor to corporations" first.

>>That's absurd, someone takes two seconds to move an object so someone else can get their food on time. That's just being a good human rather that sweating about "free labor to corporations" first. Someone who can afford a robot delivery can afford a human delivery for an extra 50 cents, or learn from this situation to not use that company again because they use robots and robots... suck, or further incentivizes the…

I'm pretty skeptical of folks who disregard basic human kindness, inserts their own hate for whatever it is they are concerned about and tries to disguise that as caring for others.

Whatever happens to "scarce economy of delivery drivers" is going to happen.

Clearing the sidewalk is just being nice to everyone.

Re: Difficult situation on campus: traffic jam of food delivery robots

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Post by watwut »

rosndo wrote: post #84
Robotbeat wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Riffing on your comment, but I think there has been a general increase in antisociality in the last few years (especially since the pandemic, which has traumatized society). Like people leaving scooters haphazardly lying around or you pushing over delivery robots instead of pushing them out of the way. People feel more and more justified to engage in antisocial behavior. And it feeds on itself. You see this as being…

> but I think there has been a general increase in antisociality in the last few years (especially since the pandemic, which has traumatized society) It makes sense that people who feel that they’ve been unfairly imprisoned in their homes by the rest of society would feel rather bitter about that. To restore faith societies could take steps to compensate those worst hit by pandemic measures (i.e young people), so far…

Your claim is that it is all right wing people becoming anti-social in unrelated areas?

Re: Difficult situation on campus: traffic jam of food delivery robots

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Post by josephcsible »

coldpie wrote: post #33
_fullpint wrote: post #13

Absolutely hate these scooters from an ADA prospective. My neighborhood is a mostly quiet one near the center of a large city, where there are a lot of mothers who push their kids in strollers, older folks with canes, and some people even in wheelchairs. On the weekends -- sometimes the weekdays as well depending on the time of the year -- the city gets flooded with both tourists, and suburbanites who want to go to a…

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Yes, let's make innocent people crash their cars! That'll teach the people who left the scooters there a lesson!

Re: Difficult situation on campus: traffic jam of food delivery robots

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Post by [deleted] »

_fullpint wrote: post #13

Absolutely hate these scooters from an ADA prospective. My neighborhood is a mostly quiet one near the center of a large city, where there are a lot of mothers who push their kids in strollers, older folks with canes, and some people even in wheelchairs. On the weekends -- sometimes the weekdays as well depending on the time of the year -- the city gets flooded with both tourists, and suburbanites who want to go to a…

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Re: Difficult situation on campus: traffic jam of food delivery robots

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Post by josephcsible »

netsharc wrote: post #37
_fullpint wrote: post #13

Absolutely hate these scooters from an ADA prospective. My neighborhood is a mostly quiet one near the center of a large city, where there are a lot of mothers who push their kids in strollers, older folks with canes, and some people even in wheelchairs. On the weekends -- sometimes the weekdays as well depending on the time of the year -- the city gets flooded with both tourists, and suburbanites who want to go to a…

Someone, who for legal reasons is not me, has the idea to make stickers with strong glue and cheap paper (so they can't be ripped off in one go) to stick on top of the QR codes to these things. The sticker would have text that says "Sorry you can't use this scooter because the last rider parked like an idiot."

So "someone" thinks it's okay to vandalize other people's property just because the last person to use it didn't put it away right?
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