I guess one of the solutions would be to allow custom store fronts with different editors policies. AppStore is not only reviewers and CDN to serve all the packages but also a lot of infra to validate and sanitize the applications as well. Multiple store fronts solution is not ideal but at least would resolve the problem which is described in the article.
Avoid the Apple App Store
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#202Related-unrelated. Does anyone know of an english 6-letter Wordle clone?
https://www.wordleunlimited.com/ lets you choose the number of letters between 4 and 11. It also allows playing many times in a row, instead of once a day.
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#203Earlier quoted context omitted.
Because it creates customer confusion and anger when they hit the genius bar with a phone that is bricked because the customer used a non-apple appstore to install software that resulted in a bricked phone. It further causes apple support increased support costs when they have to prove that it wasn't their fault. Perhaps if apple had approval on those third-party appstores and held them to a standard and charged push…
Begging the question, what part of the Apple app store prevents a bricked phone, and why would that not be a feature of non-Apple stores?
Part of their app review process is static analysis and determining if you are using any of the 'private' parts of their apis. Another app store might decide that they don't care to do that level of work and just rubber stamp everything that comes into their queue.
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#204Earlier quoted context omitted.
Copying apps isn't illegal, but it's annoying and banning the practice seems like a good policy. I think the problem boils down to two things: 1. Apple doesn't actually have a "no copycat apps" policy, instead its an unwritten and inconsistently enforced rule 2. In this case, providing a Swedish version of the game is actually good for users and arguably should be encouraged
> Apple doesn't actually have a "no copycat apps" policy https://developer.apple.com/app-store/review/guidelines/#cop... : 4.1 Copycats Come up with your own ideas. We know you have them, so make yours come to life. Don’t simply copy the latest popular app on the App Store, or make some minor changes to another app’s name or UI and pass it off as your own. In addition to risking an intellectual property infringement…
I stand corrected. I guess the problem for this dev was that the reviewer cited copyright, which doesn't apply here, instead of referencing the appropriate rule
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#205Earlier quoted context omitted.
Apple deserves the inevitable government intervention that it seems to be begging for with its arbitrariness and blatant anti competitive behavior.
> blatant anti competitive behavior apple acting self-interested (which it’s entirely justified in doing, IMHO; this is the same company that almost had a tragic death in the 90’s) just opens up more competition IMHO. it’s too bad that true open-source phones are still crap, that android gave too much power to the cell network providers and became bloatware vehicles, and that microsoft completely abandoned its phone…
What does their near death experience of the 1990s have to do with today? Is anyone in leadership from that era even working there now?
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#206Earlier quoted context omitted.
Begging the question, what part of the Apple app store prevents a bricked phone, and why would that not be a feature of non-Apple stores?
Part of their app review process is static analysis and determining if you are using any of the 'private' parts of their apis. Another app store might decide that they don't care to do that level of work and just rubber stamp everything that comes into their queue.
Apple could just provide those scanners as an open service, or make something akin to notarizing on macOS universal even if third party app stores are available.
https://developer.apple.com/documentation/security/notarizin...
> Notarizing is not App Review.
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#207I don't exactly agree with many of the points made in that post, BUT, I think this was the paragraph that made the best point: "But even if you disagree with me, and you think that Apple should be allowed to be the only gatekeeper to 60% of people’s mobile devices. Surely you still agree that Apple should apply their rules consistently? In this case that would mean either allowing Wörd on the store, or purging all ap…
That point is a good example of casual logical fallacy. Make a statement which is true or universally acceptable ("Surely you still agree that Apple should apply their rules consistently?") and then add incorrect conclusions: > In this case that would mean either allowing Wörd on the store, or purging all apps that resemble other apps from App Store. Starting with their own Apple Music and Translate apps Here's the e…
Just to add to that, seem like iPhone's market share is around 23% [0]
And as you mentioned, people decided to buy Apple's phones, either despite the App Store, or maybe because of it. Although I don't like not being able to sideload apps (although I had only 1 on Android), and how they are way too prudish (it's annoying you can't configure reddit/imgur on the app to show NSFW content), I surely don't miss how the Play Store is overriden with crappy and VERY dubious stuff. Also don't miss having the Galaxy Store without being able to get rid of it.
So yeah, each person makes their choices regarding their devices, and at least for now, I'm going to stick with iPhone, since it has more pros and less cons according to my tastes.
[0] https://www.statista.com/statistics/216459/global-market-sha...
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#208Earlier quoted context omitted.
Apple can just very publicly and visibly issue disclaimers that it is not responsible for the after effects of users installing non-App Store content. Just as it does not offer coverage for water damage to MacBooks. Then the boundaries are made clear, and user anger will be directed at whatever malicious third party instead of Apple itself.
But how do you prevent the users from thinking the problem was the non-App Store content instead of an update? They ARE going to contact support anyway
Simply, if you enable sideloading/downloading from non App Store, you make it very visible in the UX that you are essentially in a "non-safe mode" (the actual security status probably varies, but Apple would probably go out of its way to hype up the potential of danger here), and you consent to all sorts of disclaimers disavowing Apple's responsibility here, and recommending they make backups before doing so. In fact maybe they could distinguish between pre- and post-sideloading enablement backups.
If users complain after sideloading was enabled, the Geniuses can simply tap on the sign.
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#209This happened to me when Hole.io became all the rage.
I thought the game was a bit dry and slow, so I made my own variation and made it online multiplayer. Hole.io was not multiplayer, people were tricked by the bots to think it was though.
Anyways, I submitted it to Google Play Store and it was doing great for awhile, then 2 weeks later it got suspended for being too similar to Hole.io. I made a bunch of changes and resubmitted, and it lasted for a month before being suspended again with above 4 stars.
I just checked and there are still many Hole.io clones with millions of downloads that were published a couple weeks AFTER I was suspended. Like what the hell, those clones were really poor quality.
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#210Earlier quoted context omitted.
Apple deserves the inevitable government intervention that it seems to be begging for with its arbitrariness and blatant anti competitive behavior.
> blatant anti competitive behavior apple acting self-interested (which it’s entirely justified in doing, IMHO; this is the same company that almost had a tragic death in the 90’s) just opens up more competition IMHO. it’s too bad that true open-source phones are still crap, that android gave too much power to the cell network providers and became bloatware vehicles, and that microsoft completely abandoned its phone…
> Also blue texts
Not that Google has an attention span here (I'm still annoyed at them for what they did to XMPP), but RCS exists, and Apple is perfectly capable of at least supporting a fallback spec written this century. Their choice to instead just actively degrade the messaging experience, for everyone involved, when anyone involved isn't their customer, makes the entire market worse.
See also: Safari