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New York is using cameras with microphones to ticket loud cars
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Re: New York is using cameras with microphones to ticket loud cars
#452Earlier quoted context omitted.
How about the pedestrians and people eating outside at restaurants? Or people in old houses with poor insulation and single paned windows? However, I don’t like the idea of automatically ticketing people with technology devices alone despite the obnoxiously loud noise pollution from these vehicles. Police can easily hear these vehicles and pull them over for a violation.
> ”Police can easily hear these vehicles and pull them over for a violation.” In practice this doesn’t happen, however, at least here in the UK. Police are not issued with equipment to measure noise levels, and on a busy road it can be difficult to identify (provably and conclusively) which vehicles are making the noise. Which is exactly why technology like these “noise cameras” are needed!
It very much _does_ happen in the UK, though rarer than it ought.
I've even seen the police crack out light meters to fine boy racers with overly tinted windows.
Re: New York is using cameras with microphones to ticket loud cars
#453One egregiously loud motorcycle rolling through manhattan can be a nuisance to literally millions of people. This is unreasonable and a ticketing system like this makes a ton of sense. Police enforcement could probably solve the issue just as effectively. Cops ignore loud honking and loud cars when its right in front of them. If they would just stop ignoring such things the frequency would surely go down as well.
Loud honking? As opposed to what?
Re: New York is using cameras with microphones to ticket loud cars
#454Earlier quoted context omitted.
If "loud pipes save(d) lives", your insurance company would give you a discount for your man-child exhaust. And if you want anecdata, I've ridden hundreds of thousands of miles in every U. S. state, most of Canada, and elsewhere. Most of those miles have been with the exhaust that came with the bike when it rolled out of the factory. I've never been sideswiped, nor even once considered that a loud exhaust would do an…
I haven’t even heard of my insurance giving me a discount for wearing a full face helmet instead of a bucket helmet. Actually, is there a single thing that insurance gives you a discount for? Like, I’m with GEICO and as far as I can tell, it’s only age of license without accident or ticket that counts. Either every factor is a wash or insurance companies are keeping the spread as profit on their side or they have no…
Actually, is there a single thing that insurance gives you a discount for?
ABS, having taken a Motorcycle Safety Foundation riding course (in the U. S.), and yes, for storing it in a garage. All of those are items for which Progressive gives a discount.
Re: New York is using cameras with microphones to ticket loud cars
#455Earlier quoted context omitted.
To be fair, riding a quiet motorcycle is likely to get you sideswiped more if the people can't hear you at all. I've noticed the difference of head movements when changing the exhaust on my new motorcycle, from stock to a louder aftermarket. Prior, people would just veer into my lane without even checking. Anecdotal, but very noticeable difference for myself.
If "loud pipes save(d) lives", your insurance company would give you a discount for your man-child exhaust. And if you want anecdata, I've ridden hundreds of thousands of miles in every U. S. state, most of Canada, and elsewhere. Most of those miles have been with the exhaust that came with the bike when it rolled out of the factory. I've never been sideswiped, nor even once considered that a loud exhaust would do an…
Please don’t use offensive demeaning language like “man-child” it makes you sound immature and pedantic.
Re: New York is using cameras with microphones to ticket loud cars
#456Earlier quoted context omitted.
But given the low mass, does it have more emissions than a single occupant 2 ton SUV?
When it comes to NOx and particulate stuff - yes. Much higher. When it comes to CO2 it’s obviously less.
It's also worth pointing out that motorcycles are surprisingly inefficient for their mass. If you're carpooling with 2 other people, chances are pretty good you're doing better than a motorcycle on CO2 and NOx both.
I would get something like 40? mpg city, maybe like 55 highway. Paradoxically, some of the best efficiency I had was at 90mph cruise, because I tucked behind the fairing, dramatically increasing my aerodynamics.
While I may be knocking on moto for co2/emissions, I feel compelled to note that motorcycles do not contribute substantially to traffic or road wear. If you see someone lanesplit past you in traffic, just be glad they're one less car in your way.
Re: New York is using cameras with microphones to ticket loud cars
#457Earlier quoted context omitted.
Wow that’s a loud car. What’s the decibel level inside at highway speed? My Forester is loud to sit in on the freeway but what you’re describing is crazy loud. Can’t even imagine it.
It's not overly loud. I just don't hear other loud vehicles without the radio off and the windows open, and I don't typically have the radio off and the windows open. This has always been the case for me in any vehicle at highway speeds.
I suppose it could be the opposite. A very quiet car. What make, model, and year? I’ve been looking for a quiet car. BMWs seem really quiet on the inside. My friend bought one because he wanted to shield his child from freeway homier when they were driving.
Re: New York is using cameras with microphones to ticket loud cars
#458Earlier quoted context omitted.
I haven’t even heard of my insurance giving me a discount for wearing a full face helmet instead of a bucket helmet. Actually, is there a single thing that insurance gives you a discount for? Like, I’m with GEICO and as far as I can tell, it’s only age of license without accident or ticket that counts. Either every factor is a wash or insurance companies are keeping the spread as profit on their side or they have no…
Actually, is there a single thing that insurance gives you a discount for? ABS, having taken a Motorcycle Safety Foundation riding course (in the U. S.), and yes, for storing it in a garage. All of those are items for which Progressive gives a discount.
Huh. Guess I was wrong. I have the latter two (no ABS on my old Ducati Monster). Better go get my discount. Thank you!
Re: New York is using cameras with microphones to ticket loud cars
#459Earlier quoted context omitted.
Those things you listed are pretty much already illegal: Loud motorcycles with poor emissions. As for the fatality rate, it's mainly only impacting the driver. Forcing them to a car is arguably worse.
> Those things you listed are pretty much already illegal: Loud motorcycles with poor emissions. Good luck getting police to enforce that, though.
Yeah enforcement is usually the issue. We are commenting on an article about a new way to enforce though
Re: New York is using cameras with microphones to ticket loud cars
#460Fantastic! I live in south Queens next to the Brooklyn border and good lord the idiots here with their loud cars. Every night it's a cacophony of revving engines, tires screeching and exhaust bangs. You hear the same bullshit sound repeatedly every god damn day. Usually a slammed mustang, infinity or BMW with a two step or whatever that noise making exhaust mod is and either an instagram tag or car club name. And its…
Speaking of NYC, we've enjoyed some amazingly effective soundproof windows in many spaces, it seems like a thing there, but when we ask window salesmen in the Bay Area about soundproof windows like that, they kind of shrug and say " double pane is pretty much all you can do". Why can NYC do this but not SF? Or have we just not called the right store?
I have not heard of this unless its part of a recent local building code. I live in a house that was built in 1927 and partly renovated in the late 80's.