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Re: Show HN: Shortwave: Enjoy Your Inbox

#51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Organising mails is a strange game, and the only winning move is not to play. I laughed out loud at this, because you are 100% correct.

How about a nice game of chess?

Love the War Games reference.

https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/5d7f5bc3-4ceb-4d18-87f7-a146f9c...

Re: Show HN: Shortwave: Enjoy Your Inbox

#52

From the article: > Inbox Zero might be impractical every day, but Inbox Organized happens without breaking a sweat. My experience is the absolute opposite. Organising mails is a strange game, and the only winning move is not to play. I get the information out of the emails as soon as I can, and put it into a system that is actually manageable. GTD had it right from the start. Thank you David Allen. You want harsh fe…

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Re: Show HN: Shortwave: Enjoy Your Inbox

#53
post #48

I must say I loved it. In 10min I cleared my inbox which I was postponing for a few weeks. I actually love that this is tied to Gmail. The integration means I can move back at any time by just deleting my shortwave account so it's very low risk for me. Also it's top notch, it imported all my aliases and signatures.

Thank you for the kind words!

Re: Show HN: Shortwave: Enjoy Your Inbox

#55
post #46

People have more than 1 unread email? In the regular inbox? really?

My inboxes are all in the 100,000s of messages.

I have a few broad search filters (example, at work: internal email vs outside email.) I star or bookmark things I need to come back to (and then un-star them afterwards.) I use text search to find everything else.

I treat it like a giant single chat history.

I have never not been able to find an email when I need to, and I never miss a message.

Life is too short to waste time trying to maintain "inbox zero."

Re: Show HN: Shortwave: Enjoy Your Inbox

#57
post #54

Why do we need/want inbox zero? Isn’t that a false promise of modern life? Inbox zero isn’t possible or even necessary

"Inbox Zero" is 100% not the goal with Shortwave and you won't see it in our marketing. Not to be too cheeky, but "Inbox Organized" is the goal. We want to help you treat your inbox like the to-do list that it is, not necessarily smash every email that enters your inbox. Read more about our workflow in our docs. [1]

[1] https://www.shortwave.com/docs/guides/101/

Re: Show HN: Shortwave: Enjoy Your Inbox

#59
> We collect information that alone or in combination with other information in our possession could be used to identify you (“Personal Data”) as follows:

> Email Data: we collect your email address and the contents of any emails and messages you draft or receive in our Service, as well as associated metadata (such as the time sent).

I understand the technical need, but no thanks, I would prefer some local client. Especially given that:

> In certain circumstances we may share the categories of Personal Data described above with the following categories of third parties without further notice to you: [...]

> we may share Personal Data with vendors and service providers, including providers of hosting services, payment processors, email communication software and email newsletter services, customer relationship management and customer support services, and web analytics services.

So you (could) share my (business) emails with more or less everybody in the world?

Hard pass.

Re: Show HN: Shortwave: Enjoy Your Inbox

#60

From the article: > Inbox Zero might be impractical every day, but Inbox Organized happens without breaking a sweat. My experience is the absolute opposite. Organising mails is a strange game, and the only winning move is not to play. I get the information out of the emails as soon as I can, and put it into a system that is actually manageable. GTD had it right from the start. Thank you David Allen. You want harsh fe…

> Organising mails is a strange game, and the only winning move is not to play. I laughed out loud at this, because you are 100% correct.

So true. I found that if an issue is really important, then they will find a way to contact you or it resolves automatically. If I really need to get a context, I'll search for the recipient's name and get instant context on the "issue".

My solution is just to never delete any e-mails. Inbox zero is a complete waste of time for me.

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