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>A city is being held hostage by an extreme minority and, even in OPs post they mention that the Toronto police handled it properly, but question the admonition levied against the Ottawa police. >The Ottawa police are complicit in this now as well as city council. They sat on their hands while allowing this to spiral out of control, and now want to play the victim or blame others (e.g. blaming counter protesters toda…
> Not much media coverage.. oh this is absurd. BLM was the lead story in just about every newspaper, news channel, magazine and aggregator sites for weeks. I noticed on a sibling comment you claim to live near Portland and implied that local media did minimal coverage which is also absurd. Again, it was covered obsessively by just about every single local news outlets from their local networks, papers, and podcasts.…
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#932Earlier quoted context omitted.
I've said this before. There's a strong libertarian bent to HN and I'm not surprised if there's a large contingent of this site that actively supports the convoy. There's people here that are strong supports of Peter Thiel, if that's any indication of where their sympathies lie. But, most of them are not residents of Ottawa, and the lived experiences of people in that city, particurlarly those who have had run ins wi…
> I've said this before. There's a strong libertarian bent to HN and I'm not surprised if there's a large contingent of this site that actively supports the convoy. There's people here that are strong supports of Peter Thiel, if that's any indication of where their sympathies lie. To me the political bent of HN isn't relevant when reading a comment. I'd rather take each comment on its own merits, without guessing or…
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Getting fired for not getting vaccines was a line that I didn't agree with. However, the vast majority of organizations that did this were private though, and it was the organization that implemented these policies. I'd hardly equate that with government overreach, and especially not the federal government if you're a nurse/healthcare worker, or worked in a local municipal government. My point is that these protests…
It seems pretty clear to me that the protests have everything to do with the vaccine mandates. Why should only people who are fired be allowed to protest? Most of the truckers are vaccinated, but they are protesting for the right of those who aren't to be allowed to do their job.
All of the health and COVID mandate policy is set at the provincial level in Canada, not federally. They should be protesting in Toronto, or other provincial capitals.
However, a good percentage of provincial capitals are currently Conservative governments. So, by deliberatly choosing Ottawa, they're protesting legitimately elected government to force them to step down (despite being democratically elected 6 months ago) and install a new leadership panel made up of the convoy leadership.
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How about Canadians living in America who are de facto barred from entering their country to visit relatives?
As has been pointed out, you can visit relatives in Canada. What you can't do is zip back and forth across the border willy nilly during this pandemic, while refusing to take the preventative measures 4/5ths of your (eligible) countrymen have taken, namely vaccination. I'm an American living in Canada. Like you I chose to live across an international border from my family. Guess what? Living abroad inconvenient from…
>>Be kind. Don't be snarky. Have curious conversation; don't cross-examine. Please don't fulminate. Please don't sneer, including at the rest of the community.
Re: Names of Canada truck convoy donors leaked after reported hack
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I'd like to see links to the personal attacks you claim we're tacitly ok with. I can only think of one user who I carve out occasional exceptions for (for reasons other than you'd expect, and not someone very-high-profile). Other than that, I'm pretty confident in saying: no, we don't do that. All this has zero to do with "SV ideological purity tests". If you follow the moderation here, you should know that we have n…
Thomas Ptacek and Don Hopkins are two examples of very high-profile users who routinely post guidelines-breaking comments without being downvoted, flagged, or chastised by mods. Even if you were to concede that, you'd probably counter that you can't read all the comments. And, of course, that is so. But that is beside the point that I have made many times before: the community's bias allows such users (and those who…
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#936Earlier quoted context omitted.
No person protesting during the BLM riots had "gone through much worse for hundreds of years." The truckers had personally experienced the thing they are protesting against (or would be affected by it going forward).
To clarify, the truckers have not been affected by the vaccine mandate until now. They were given two years to get an innocuous jab.
(I'm not even going to broach the subject of "innocuous jab" at this date. A year ago, that may have been uncontroversial.)
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They're honking for 16-18 hours per day. For people that live near the convoy, they've been able to sleep for over two weeks due to this. I have friends and family affected by this. I'm fairly sure this constitutes torture if you don't have the resources to up and leave your residence for days at a time in order to sleep.
> They're honking for 16-18 hours per day. For people that live near the convoy, they've been able to sleep for over two weeks due to this. I have friends and family affected by this. I'm fairly sure this constitutes torture if you don't have the resources to up and leave your residence for days at a time in order to sleep. Are earplugs not a thing in Canada? Calling honking torture is ridiculous hyperbole. That word…
Earplugs will dull the noise, but if I can't take a nap over two guys having a conversation at that distance, I really doubt most folks' ability to get a good night's sleep over truck horns. The earplugs will probably mitigate the physical damage done by the noise, but I highly doubt they do much for the psychological stress. People lose their ability to focus and sometimes their sanity due to injuries that cause a constant ringing in their ears. Even if you can reduce the volume, the constant noise is a type of torture.
Edit: Found the Noise Reduction Rating for a number of different types of hearing pro that I've used in the past. The best one was rated at 33, meaning it roughly reduces the noise by something like 33 decibels. That pair, of course, being the ubiquitous neon yellow 3M product with flames on the sides for enhanced performance. I don't wear them myself because while they're fashionable, they're incredibly uncomfortable for me. This also appears to be among the best non-powered hearing pro that's available on the market. They will take an uncomfortably loud worksite at 105 dB down to effectively under 80 dB and more-or-less within a safe range for hearing. Not a pleasant level for sleeping though, by any means, although I can pull it off myself if I'm tired enough. When you start talking about a truck horn which those earplugs might or might not be able to quiet down close to the level of that 105 dB you'd experience with no hearing pro on a worksite, you're past potential hearing damage and well into a range where there is no reasonable escape from the barrage of sound.
Edit 2: Most of these earplugs in the 25-33 NRR range are definitely available at the hardware store if anyone needs to know that. They're more expensive per pair and seem to come in higher count containers, but they're there and much cheaper than the doctor's visits and hearing aids will be in the future. If you find yourself in a situation where the background noise is uncomfortable at all, please, please, get yourself some if at all feasible. Half the old dudes I've worked with in my life did not think it was worth the hassle and I'm tired of having to scream in people's ears to communicate. Also all the near misses because you have to either throw something at them or close the distance if you see a dangerous situation they don't and need to warn them.
Re: Names of Canada truck convoy donors leaked after reported hack
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I'm pretty sure OP is explicitly NOT assigning/painting left and right, but rather saying with the "pulled back the veil of opposition" comment that left vs right is an illusion/artifice, and the struggle is actually upper vs lower class.
I'm confused, aren't the protestors and their entire cause very openly right leaning? Or am I getting browbeaten for making the connection the specific working class are in fact right leaning... OP didn't write their comment in a vacuum. Can we not pretend that we're unable to apply context, like a massive conservative movement sparked by conservative anti vaxx sentiment .
This same group of truckers who repeatedly say that they are not anti vaxx but anti mandate and are more than 95% vaccinated anyway.
Okay, buddy.
Re: Names of Canada truck convoy donors leaked after reported hack
#939It appears this was the result of terrible security at GiveSendGo. I'd agree it could be state sponsored, but I am certain there are enough people with the skills to do this on their own downtown Ottawa (even if it turned out they work for the gov't). That said, I am thoroughly disappointed the Federal gov't and much of the media coverage. They have done nothing but make the situation worse. I think it is intentional…
I didn't see (nonfringe) calls for martial law. I saw calls for the military to tow the trucks because the actual truck towing companies the police normally subcontracted to were unwillingness to piss off their customer base/risk of violence from truckers/agreement with the protests. And, of the various government agencies, only the military had access to the heavy vehicle movers that were needed. > I think it is int…
I am 100% certain there are people who can easily pick whatever kind of ignition lock cylinders are used in these trucks. It would be far more efficient to "car jack" these trucks, drive them to an impound lot, and auction them off the next day, than trying to tow them with "military tow trucks" (whatever those are).
Re: Names of Canada truck convoy donors leaked after reported hack
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Comparing civil disturbances with other civil disturbances is fair. Martin Luther Kings March on Selma can be compared (very favorably) to the Night of Broken Glass. The BLM protests involved a much larger number of people, and last much longer (so far). It makes it easier to cherry lick bad examples. It’s fair to say what we’re seeing in Canada is like the worst of the BLM condensed into a few weeks. But I stayed aw…
You're disregarding my premise, and arguing against something else. The severity of the BLM protests in no way sets precedence for other protests, nor informs the minimum level of violence/destruction/disruption that must occur before other protests are criticized and acknowledged as traumatic for the people whose lives have been disrupted. These events stand on their own, and aren't somehow offset by another protest…
If BLM protests were encouraged or tolerated by authorities, yet the trucker protestors are harshly target it raises the question “why?”
It’s possible the response to BLM was wrong. It’s possible that America and Canada have different concepts of political liberty.
But it’s also possible offialdom is playing favorites.
These are legitimate questions, and Canadian voters should seek answers for them.