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Re: Tell HN: Reddit accounts cancellation/suspension caused by VPN usage

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What is the most promising original-Reddit clone?

Lemmy? https://join-lemmy.org/

Lemmy is great for anyone who wants to deploy their own reddit clone and wants federation with other lemmy instances.

Re: Tell HN: Reddit accounts cancellation/suspension caused by VPN usage

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I don't think reddit accounts get banned by using VPN but it is more about what you are posting using your accounts.

It's really more about what kind of things people were posting from that VPN IP in the months/years before you. The abuse detection system will say "the tshirt spammer is back, flag this account" just because you used the same VPN as them.

Re: Tell HN: Reddit accounts cancellation/suspension caused by VPN usage

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I've definitely created a new account recently over VPN, posted a single question in a linux forum and then found the account was shadow banned.

You can always contact the reddit team and if your account is suspended wrongly, it would definitely be reinstated.

Also important to note that if you didn't post a lot, many subs will auto-remove content from low karma users. So it's possible to have misidentified a global shadow ban with a few subreddit's low karma filter. One of my spammer adversaries regularly games FreeKarma4U and a specific star wars game subreddit until they figure out our low karma filter threshold then they go nuts with the spam.

Re: Tell HN: Reddit accounts cancellation/suspension caused by VPN usage

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I've gotten a 7 day ban just for being a member of a group. Never posted, never up or down voted. Just a member. Banned for 7 days. I'm Reddit user 2,200 or so, never had even a warning about anything. I'm lucky they didn't permanently ban my account

How would that even work? Moderators don't have access to any lists of users that have subscribed to their subreddits.

Don't forget that this is a company where the CEO can apparently go in and edit other user's posts for revenge and he was put in place and tolerated because he was somehow better than the person in charge before him.

Just posting in the "wrong" sub can get you banned all across the platform (no matter what you actually said).

Of course, this violates several of the Reddit mod TOS/guidelines, but Reddit doesn't care.

Yesterday, one of the top stories in the default /r/news is the attempted assassination of a Mayoral candidate.

Today, it turns out that the guy was a far-left BLM supporter and all mentions and threads have been retroactively scrubbed from the sub.

It's just a large echo-chamber supported from the top down. Would it be exceptional to think that this information could "leak" into the hands of the echo-chamber mods?

Re: Tell HN: Reddit accounts cancellation/suspension caused by VPN usage

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This is astonishingly illegal. What needs to happen is for someone who has a report to make to contact the state attorney general and say "because this company is profiting from child pornography with no reporting mechanism, they have lost their safe harbor protection, and are complicit." Companies like this need to be taught at the metaphorical end of a rifle.

Yeah, I think that's basically what the FBI agent they interviewed said. There's nothing for him to do and it would be entirely up to prosecutors to do anything. Part of the wrench is that kik can show that they do some sort of things that possibly qualify as "moderation" under the law. Things like auto-banning bots. So in court has apparently successfully kik has made the claim that they do moderate based on things…

This would be easy to prosecute, assuming the allegations are true. They don’t have a working DMCA contact, so they lose safe harbor. They could have the lawyer testify that her client’s underage nudes and related dmca takedowns were never removed, despite court order to take them down. That’s obviously not a special case, so they could spot check a few dozen prior cases, and show non-compliance for those too.

Of course, doing that would cut off a stream of easy pedophile convictions. The prosecutor’s office might like the status quo. It certainly helps increase their metrics.

Re: Tell HN: Reddit accounts cancellation/suspension caused by VPN usage

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Shadow banning is such a disgusting practice. It's basically sweeping the "problem" under the rug, whilst leaving the "problem" completely in the dark with regards to what it was they did wrong. It's lazy, it's abusive, and it should be illegal. Edit: to clarify, I'm totally fine with this tool being employed to combat spam(bots). Just not against normal posters/contributors.

It should not be illegal to ban someone from a website under any circumstances.

I'm not talking about regular bans, I'm talking about shadow banning.

In case you're not familiar with the concept: it entails "muting" an account without ever notifying said account of that fact. They can still post, comment, vote, and everything else, but no one will see this content.

Re: Tell HN: Reddit accounts cancellation/suspension caused by VPN usage

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post #81

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I thought mods are unpaid?

Mods are not paid by Reddit, admins are paid but I think that some admins are also modding a few subs.

The r/cryptocurrency mods were paid by Reddit in their cryptocurrency called "moons" which can be traded for cash.

Re: Tell HN: Reddit accounts cancellation/suspension caused by VPN usage

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I got banned from countless subreddits becuase I dared arguing with covide deniers on r/NoNewNormal. I didn't even agree with them and was always critical but that apperently doesn't matter

Did you get banned from anti-NoNewNormal subs for commenting in NoNewNormal? Or did the bannings come from subs like-minded to NoNewNormal because you disagreed with them?

From anti-nonewnormal subs. Its fully automated ban as far as I know

Re: Tell HN: Reddit accounts cancellation/suspension caused by VPN usage

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post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Shadow banning is such a disgusting practice. It's basically sweeping the "problem" under the rug, whilst leaving the "problem" completely in the dark with regards to what it was they did wrong. It's lazy, it's abusive, and it should be illegal. Edit: to clarify, I'm totally fine with this tool being employed to combat spam(bots). Just not against normal posters/contributors.

I don't disagree with you, let's play devils advocate: To be fair to the companies, the amount of work to fight off bots and bad accounts is quite complicated, costly (both financially, quality of site, reputation wise) and similar to all kinds of frauds gets increasingly more challenging as the fraudsters improve their game. Add in managing the people who are purposely incendiary and not bots. The amount of people g…

    > The amount of people getting caught up in the filter is likely quite small.
I don't believe that this is the case, though. Subreddit mods often seem to use it against counter-narrative type of posts - a single post could get you shaddow-banned for life on 50 subreddits that all happen to be under that mod's control. Happens often enough.

As I mentioned I'm fine with this tool being used against spam.

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