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Why were you using Tor?
Why aren't you using Tor?
It's slow af and various site traffic blocking tools get triggered by it.
Tell HN: Reddit accounts cancellation/suspension caused by VPN usage
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#202Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm utterly amazed at how ban-wild some communities can be. I occasionally see stories of people being banned from communities they've never posted to (reading/lurking only) simply because they also subscribe to another community that is "opposite" of the first. Take /r/novavax_vaccine_talk for example. There was recently a member [1] there who was banned from /r/coronavirus simply for being a member. These people ar…
I got banned from countless subreddits becuase I dared arguing with covide deniers on r/NoNewNormal. I didn't even agree with them and was always critical but that apperently doesn't matter
I got banned from one because a creep tagged me in one of those subs
I've never read or posted anything in them as far as I know
I'm actually kind of sympathetic to the ones trying to stop brigading though
The Chinese bots following me around for speaking about the uyghur genocide are pretty bad
Re: Tell HN: Reddit accounts cancellation/suspension caused by VPN usage
#203Earlier quoted context omitted.
> get banned, if you use nuanced sarcasm or actually if you are touching anything that is toxic. I agree that this is a thing, of course. But it makes for very low quality discussion, since non-toxic users will just let the toxicity fester instead of engaging to mitigate it. > you have to keep records of those warnings. 'Reddit Enhancement Suite' has that as a feature, and it could be added as such on the official si…
>>I agree that this is a thing, of course. But it makes for very low quality discussion, since non-toxic users will just let the toxicity fester instead of engaging to mitigate it. I do not make rules of reddit(I feel that the discussion somehow has took that direction, where... I am defending reddit?) - I just speak from my experience. There is a reason, why humans can not have on their mind more than one enemy - th…
> I do not make rules of reddit(I feel that the discussion somehow has took that direction, where... I am defending reddit?) - I just speak from my experience.
I don't think you're "defending reddit", FWIW. I just wanted to push back lightly on some things you said. And I've also seen a system based on escalating "warnings" work very well at multiple places, including arguably here at HN!
> Not, if you return with different email ...
That's not what multiple users have said in the current discussion. Their AI bot watchdogs are a lot more trigger-happy than that these days. (Which is quite fine and well per se, since plenty of bans of spammers, grossly offensive abusers etc. are quite legitimate.)
Re: Tell HN: Reddit accounts cancellation/suspension caused by VPN usage
#204It's how the Reddit spam filter works. Once your account is flagged as spam by the system, it would be global shadowbanned automacially. At this stage, your account is essentially finished, it's basically impossible to talk to someone and get your account unblocked. Eventually the account would be deleted, all the post you've ever made would also be gone in the worst-case scenario, just like my previous account. My R…
Shadow banning is such a disgusting practice. It's basically sweeping the "problem" under the rug, whilst leaving the "problem" completely in the dark with regards to what it was they did wrong. It's lazy, it's abusive, and it should be illegal. Edit: to clarify, I'm totally fine with this tool being employed to combat spam(bots). Just not against normal posters/contributors.
HN does the same. I messaged Dang about it and he apologized and un-shadowbanned me.
Apparently it was because I had two accounts made from the same IP. On on my laptop and one from my mobile phone.
Re: Tell HN: Reddit accounts cancellation/suspension caused by VPN usage
#205It's how the Reddit spam filter works. Once your account is flagged as spam by the system, it would be global shadowbanned automacially. At this stage, your account is essentially finished, it's basically impossible to talk to someone and get your account unblocked. Eventually the account would be deleted, all the post you've ever made would also be gone in the worst-case scenario, just like my previous account. My R…
>basically impossible to talk to someone and get your account unblocked Not sure it would even matter. I once submitted a breaking news story to /r/news and it was autodeleted by their bot. I messaged a mod asking why it was deleted since it was in fact news and was not a duplicate and their response was to tell me I'm stupid and to permaban me from the sub.
These are completely different issues. I was talking about a network-wide ban performed automatically by Reddit server-side anti-spam mechanisms, it's not about the internal policies or moderations (whether auto or manual) of a specific subreddit.
Re: Tell HN: Reddit accounts cancellation/suspension caused by VPN usage
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#207Earlier quoted context omitted.
"Using encryption, sounds like something a criminal would do." Yes, that is what this sounds like. iI have another idea why Reddit does not like VPN. They cannot monetize your data as easily.
I was answering the unasked question of why Reddit would care if someone removed the email address associated with their account.
Using a proxy or VPN also sounds like things a spammer would do, and this is also why Reddit would care and autoban these accounts. But the point of this thread is that, these anti-spam mechanisms always cause collateral damages (like some of us in this thread) and the experience can get really frustrating when that happens.
Re: Tell HN: Reddit accounts cancellation/suspension caused by VPN usage
#208Admins and mods are banning untold users every day for any and no reason at all. It is a really terrible place for discussion now, even if you somehow manage to find a small subreddit which permits nuanced discussion. It will inevitably be banned or the mods replaced with Reddit-approved mods and all nuanced discussion banned. I hope to see a Digg-like exodus soon.
> I hope to see a Digg-like exodus soon.
Small problem with this. What enabled the Digg-to-reddit exodus was a strong competitor lying in the shadows. Nobody lying in the shadows behind reddit could handle an exodus. Most lemmy instances regularly go down anytime reddit so much as sneezes. I remember an exodus attempt to Voat took Voat down for at least a week, and in fact Voat never got back online until the entire exodus quit.
Re: Tell HN: Reddit accounts cancellation/suspension caused by VPN usage
#209Reddit bans users for complaining about mods. Deleting my accounts and not looking back. Twitter is more free and people are generally less offended by criticism.
Beside the fact that twitter bans account too, the issue is that it is people centric, you have to follow people/account (and see all their posts including stuff you don't care about, and miss I treating tweets on a subject by people you don't follow) whereas Reddit is topic centric, you subscribe to subreddits.
Re: Tell HN: Reddit accounts cancellation/suspension caused by VPN usage
#210What were you posting? I've used a VPN constantly and I have a Reddit account in the 15-year club, it hasn't been an issue.
I haven't seen any issues with my 10+ year old accounts. They are probably marked as safe and only newer accounts at risk.
Probably my 10 years + verified email + MFA + never using a public VPN saves me a lot of grief in the abuse detection algorithm lottery.