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Re: Tell HN: Reddit accounts cancellation/suspension caused by VPN usage

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the OG is 4chan

4chan isn't the OG, it was long predated by Slashdot and Something Awful.

And those were predated by Usenet which still exists but nobody has solved the spam issues.

Re: Tell HN: Reddit accounts cancellation/suspension caused by VPN usage

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>>The downvote is not a disagree button! Downvote is a disagree button as it is perceived as such and that is an issue. Same functionality is in NH - it just has a higher treshold when you can use it, but not really that different in essence. Banning for arguing is normal - from the times, when early web forums existed. Banning can be for any reasons - disagreeing with mod, arguing with someone, who is friends with m…

GP was not banned for arguing, they were banned for placing a throwaway arguing/flamebait comment - "using php is stupid" - in the proper context, by providing some nuance. The fact that they were even banned for that, when at most they should have been warned had they been actually arguing, tells you everything there is to know about how well that 'subreddit' is being managed (hint: not very well).

I've reread what GP was posted and he was banned for reason: personal attack, because he did say, that comment is stupid. For exactly the same reason you can get banned, if you use nuanced sarcasm or actually if you are touching anything that is toxic.

Warnings can not be sustainable, when such high volume of warned is involved - you have to keep records of those warnings. Since it is easy to create account in reddit, outright ban is a warning - to not to do the same with new account.

If you are a dick in RL and do snarly comments in RL, you will be banned from communication quicker than in reddit - in some cases even beaten up. So, the only approach is to use reddit and NH comments with attitude, that it is not real conversation.

Re: Tell HN: Reddit accounts cancellation/suspension caused by VPN usage

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Doesn't surprise me the slightest, Reddit is not like it used to be. It used to be the underdog where free speech flourished and today it's a chineese-owned propaganda machine. A few users controls the biggest subreddits and most deviating views get themselves either banned or restricted.

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Re: Tell HN: Reddit accounts cancellation/suspension caused by VPN usage

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Small tip for people reading comments: if you want to read Reddit anonymously you can replace the domain of any reddit URL with teddit.net. It's an open source, lightweight, web UI for Reddit focused on privacy: https://teddit.net/ . Git repo available here: https://codeberg.org/teddit/teddit .

What a stupid domain choice. WARNING: It is not sufficient to replace first char in domain. You must also TLD.

Re: Tell HN: Reddit accounts cancellation/suspension caused by VPN usage

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Delete your email address from your profile. That got my ten year account banned.

Sounds like something someone who's going to sell their account would do.

"Using encryption, sounds like something a criminal would do." Yes, that is what this sounds like.

iI have another idea why Reddit does not like VPN. They cannot monetize your data as easily.

Re: Tell HN: Reddit accounts cancellation/suspension caused by VPN usage

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Mods are not paid by Reddit, admins are paid but I think that some admins are also modding a few subs.

I'm conspiratorial enough to believe that some of the power mods are being paid, but not by reddit.

There are mods that are paid, for example mods that run a company subreddit.

But, I am also sceptical about transparency of mods of large subreddit, ie the powermods.

Re: Tell HN: Reddit accounts cancellation/suspension caused by VPN usage

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GP was not banned for arguing, they were banned for placing a throwaway arguing/flamebait comment - "using php is stupid" - in the proper context, by providing some nuance. The fact that they were even banned for that, when at most they should have been warned had they been actually arguing, tells you everything there is to know about how well that 'subreddit' is being managed (hint: not very well).

I've reread what GP was posted and he was banned for reason: personal attack, because he did say, that comment is stupid. For exactly the same reason you can get banned, if you use nuanced sarcasm or actually if you are touching anything that is toxic. Warnings can not be sustainable, when such high volume of warned is involved - you have to keep records of those warnings. Since it is easy to create account in reddit…

> get banned, if you use nuanced sarcasm or actually if you are touching anything that is toxic.

I agree that this is a thing, of course. But it makes for very low quality discussion, since non-toxic users will just let the toxicity fester instead of engaging to mitigate it.

> you have to keep records of those warnings.

'Reddit Enhancement Suite' has that as a feature, and it could be added as such on the official site. Or it could be done unofficially in the "modmail".

> Since it is easy to create account in reddit, outright ban is a warning

Returning with a new account after being permbanned from a 'sub' counts as ban evasion, and will trigger a global site-wide ban for both accounts. Reddit has gotten very aggressive about this as of late, quite possibly using AI bots that will try to detect when such "ban evasion" is happening, and trigger global bans.

Re: Tell HN: Reddit accounts cancellation/suspension caused by VPN usage

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>>The downvote is not a disagree button! Downvote is a disagree button as it is perceived as such and that is an issue. Same functionality is in NH - it just has a higher treshold when you can use it, but not really that different in essence. Banning for arguing is normal - from the times, when early web forums existed. Banning can be for any reasons - disagreeing with mod, arguing with someone, who is friends with m…

Well I disagree but I understand your golden rule so I'll downvote you since this is the behavior you are requesting. Please note that I don't want you to reciprocate. To me downvotes mean I posted something irrelevant or forgot to be polite.

>>Downvote is a disagree button as it is "perceived as such"

Not because people are stupid and have one-dimensional thinking, but for the reasons, that textual information does not provide enough additional information, I always add additional information, if post is a joke.

Re: Tell HN: Reddit accounts cancellation/suspension caused by VPN usage

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It should not be illegal to ban someone from a website under any circumstances.

I think he means the practice of shadow banning. Not that I agree there either, but I agree that it is abusive.

What if they just started shadow banning African Americans? Would that be illegal? This is a serious qeustion. If we have no idea on who they are shadow banning how can we tell if they are not being discriminatory?

Re: Tell HN: Reddit accounts cancellation/suspension caused by VPN usage

#180
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It's how the Reddit spam filter works. Once your account is flagged as spam by the system, it would be global shadowbanned automacially. At this stage, your account is essentially finished, it's basically impossible to talk to someone and get your account unblocked. Eventually the account would be deleted, all the post you've ever made would also be gone in the worst-case scenario, just like my previous account. My R…

Why were you using Tor?

Mainly because I hate trackers. These days I'm using Tor for at least half of my web browsing. My desktop also runs QubesOS, the web browsers (both Tor Browser and the regular browser) are in their own disposable VMs. Once the window is closed, the system is reset and whatever cookies or exploits would all be gone permanently.
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