Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Names of Canada truck convoy donors leaked after reported hack

reuters.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

891–900 of 965 posts

Re: Names of Canada truck convoy donors leaked after reported hack

#891

Post by BeefWellington »

brnaftr361 wrote: post #475
BeefWellington wrote: post #364

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Canada Unity is one of the co-organizers of this event.[1] This is what their "Memorandum of Understanding" stated one month ago[2] (January 13): ARTICLE 1. SCOPE of ACCORD Canada Unity (CU) offers this “Memorandum” to the Senate of Canada and the Governor General of Canada, the highest authorities representing the Federal Government (SCGGC) as “The Government of Canada”. Acceptance by endorsement of this “Memorandum…

This is not convincing, source 1 reads like a hit piece, and ultimately only lists 12 people with zero authority out of thousands of other participants. Organizers have questionable sway in any case. Everything else is an aside, except for source 3, which indicates to me that it was probably a product of internal pressure. I came to that conclusion independently, and upon looking: "It has come to the attention of Can…

I'm not sure how familiar you are with HackerNews but this sort of trite dismissive reply is usually considered in exceptionally poor taste around here.

If you are rejecting those sources, please provide any sourcing of your own to demonstrate the information I've provided is wrong in some way.

You might be unconvinced but your return argument lacks substantiation beyond handwaving.

Re: Names of Canada truck convoy donors leaked after reported hack

#892

Post by 8note »

tagoregrtst wrote: post #407
kstenerud wrote: post #324

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, so they don't contribute to the clogging of hospitals (90% of COVID related hospitalizations are unvaccinated people). Stop being so selfish and get vaccinated.

Im not arguing for or against vaccination. Im just pointing out that some Canadians are de facto barred from entry. The law also doesn't recognize natural immunity which is not that ineffective, is it?

No Canadians are barred from entry, nor have they been. You'll still be getting into the country, just with testing and quarantine requirements. Working cross border isn't a right

Re: Names of Canada truck convoy donors leaked after reported hack

#893

Post by 8note »

tagoregrtst wrote: post #609
micromacrofoot wrote: post #501

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The vaccine reserved for you did not go to the third world instead.

I’ll help your argument out and make it stronger (because “reserved” vaccines have indeed been shipped overseas): Once a vial is opened the vaccines contained therein can’t be shipped overseas and will expire in a few hours. I could therefore wait outside a Walgreens before closing and get the shot. Except Im not a utilitarian. I cannot take what is rightfully another’s just because they cant enjoy it. I believe that…

It is rightfully yours. your government put in the work to develop and produce these vaccines on your behalf. You can always put in more work to make more vaccines to get to others if you think they should also have vaccines

Re: Names of Canada truck convoy donors leaked after reported hack

#894

Post by 8note »

AlimJaffer wrote: post #397
throwaway894345 wrote: post #360

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I genuinely wonder how many of the people protesting actually know who this person is or what he believes (if the parent comment even accurately represents him--I really have no idea). Reminds me of how people would criticize BLM protests on the basis that some people in the BLM org had ties to communism--a very weak criticism considering how many better criticisms existed and how few of the protesters had related vi…

King is literally a founding convoy organizer who calls the shots and has a massive following and influence on the convoy members. His videos get 100's of thousands of views and he influenced the convoy 'manifesto' that they created to try to overthrow the government. Your comment shows you have done zero research into the matter. He's a vocal white supremacist who believes Islam has taken over the government to kill…

I get the sense you aren't familiar with BLM Canada. They aren't dissimilar.

Re: Names of Canada truck convoy donors leaked after reported hack

#895

Post by 8note »

talentedcoin wrote: post #392
throwaway894345 wrote: post #381

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a strong indictment to the extent that this person actually "runs the show" and his views about race represent the majority of protesters' views. Which is to say "yes, it's a weak indictment".

Idk. At best you are defending the idea that the majority of protestors are pawns in someone else’s game, no? Just because someone doesn’t know they’re being used doesn’t mean they aren’t being used …

i dont see canadian citizens as pawns. Support isn't going to go past the aligned interests

Re: Names of Canada truck convoy donors leaked after reported hack

#896

Post by crtasm »

mrtesthah wrote: post #179
hammock wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Quoted post unavailable.

Foreign support is grossly apparent from the leaked data. Individual donors 36,975 Canadian 55,870 Foreign 92,845 Total Amount donated $4,311,287 Canadian $12,532,326 Foreign $16,843,613 Total

There aren't 92k individual donors - some people donated multiple times. There's 90,030 unique emails listed and 2 entries with no email.

Re: Names of Canada truck convoy donors leaked after reported hack

#897

Post by flyingcircus3 »

pyuser583 wrote: post #872
flyingcircus3 wrote: post #849

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why are the extreme examples of other events the baseline threshold for problems at subsequent events?

Because we evaluate the extremity of events relative to each other.

But we don't allow the extremes of barely related events to calibrate what should or shouldn't be alarming about other events.

Re: Names of Canada truck convoy donors leaked after reported hack

#898

Post by 8note »

totony wrote: post #814
barbazoo wrote: post #348

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Publishing the already publicly available data isn't doxxing yet. This is necessary information the public needs to see to start estimating how much of that money is coming from foreign donors so we can question why and deal with it accordingly.

I'm eager to see passwords leaks as well as all the other personal info leaks for the last decade be exposed then. Remember the Desjardins leak a few years ago? Is that OK? I fail to see why a leak is considered "public information" to you or why specifically it's ok for this case but not equifax, desjardins and all the others.

Understanding american meddling in canadian affairs is handy for canadian sovereignty.

Re: Names of Canada truck convoy donors leaked after reported hack

#899

Post by 8note »

loginatnine wrote: post #571
canadianeh2 wrote: post #20

i have a 4 year old daughter in ontario who has never seen her friends faces or her teacher's face. she eats outside even when it's -20. as of today, no end in sight for these rules. why? it's shameful. im surprised the civil unrest in canada isnt worse.

Nobody eat outside, especially at -20C you're just lying. My 4 years old at the kindergarden doesn't wear a mask and neither does her classmates. She eats indoor every day. My 7 years old in first grade wears a mask indoor but not outdoor. She eats inside with all of her classmates, unmasked.

I used to on occasion back in elementary school. It's -30 where everyone was required to be inside

Re: Names of Canada truck convoy donors leaked after reported hack

#900

Post by throwaway894345 »

8note wrote: post #889
throwaway894345 wrote: post #550

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From your own overtly biased link: > Under the new law, an Oklahoma driver will no longer be liable for striking — or even killing — a person if the driver is “fleeing from a riot ... under a reasonable belief that fleeing was necessary to protect the motor vehicle operator from serious injury or death.” Super disingenuous to characterize that as "it's legal to run over protesters".

The person you drove over doesn't get to give an alternative story to this necessity, nor do they have to be somebody that you're fleeing from. I don't think it's reasonable to defend yourself from somebody by going up to a passer by and shooting them

> The person you drove over doesn't get to give an alternative story to this necessity, nor do they have to be somebody that you're fleeing from.

Agreed. This is one of many reasons why rioting is awful—it creates these dangerous scenarios where ordinary people have to make split second life-or-death decisions. Frankly, I wish rioting was prosecuted more aggressively rather than blaming people who are stuck in situations where they have to defend themselves (“but they don’t need to be there!” > I don't think it's reasonable to defend yourself from somebody by going up to a passer by and shooting them

This is an embarrassingly obvious straw man. No one is arguing for the right to kill a third party to defend oneself against another, the argument is that people should be given a pass if they accidentally hit someone while fleeing for their life. It’s one thing to disagree with that, but it’s an entirely different thing to lie about the law or the argument.

Post reply on HN