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Names of Canada truck convoy donors leaked after reported hack

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Post by beerandt »

sofixa wrote: post #205
defaultname wrote: post #183

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"Far left"? I'm a conservative. Most normal conservatives are vigorously against these protests, for exactly the same reason that we were against railway blockades, and against violence and mayhem that occurred under the umbrella of BLM protests. I am simply in awe that so many of the same people that were viciously against BLM protests are supporters of this protest. Regardless, the literal stated goal of the organi…

> I am simply in awe that so many of the same people that were viciously against BLM protests are supporters of this protest Where do you think that hypocrisy comes from? I'm across the pond so very far from the action, but I'm very curious how people reason about this.

Because many on the right (and center and left) are naive enough to think that left-leaning groups/entity protests getting "mostly peaceful" positive coverage during the height of lockdowns in 2020 was actually an unbiased shift of norms, and not just media partisanship.

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Post by nitwit005 »

Dig1t wrote: post #77

Interesting side thought, this whole debacle has made me see the real value of Bitcoin and other crypto currencies..

I'm not at-all familiar with Canadian law, but receiving money from foreign donors for political activity is often illegal. These funding platforms would probably need you to disclose who you are even if you gave bitcoin.

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Post by manquer »

tagoregrtst wrote: post #429
mywittyname wrote: post #405

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Quarantine procedures were in place during Zika and Ebola outbreaks as well. And those procedures were substantially more harsh. Major metro hospitals had quarantine facilities brought in for Ebola. Patients were shoved into a mobile field hospital for 14 days. Not a single protest happened for that. The takeaway here is that none of this is new. People are mostly just pissed off that the quarantine procedures now ap…

Right, but the virus was contained. A quarantine when you have as much COVID as anyone is petty.

Effectiveness is not metric that changes legality. A lot of government policy is ineffective does not make it illegal or unconstitutional .

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Post by purephase »

suckmore wrote: post #523
purephase wrote: post #455

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Unless there's some crazy school board out there, there's no way they have kids eating outside when it's -20. Most school boards won't even have outdoor recess on days like that. I have 11 nieces and nephews in 5 different school boards in Ontario, and not one of them has these restrictions. They eat indoors, they can take their masks off at lunch, and during gym class. Their teachers regularly post videos for studen…

I don't live in Ontario and don't have kids, so I don't have any personal experience. This section of Joël Lightbound speech stood out to me though. It is regarding the apparent quarantine measures in Quebec. I can't substantiate it, so maybe it is completely sensationalized. >In Quebec in January 22, we've locked up kids aged 6 to 10 years old for up to ten days in windowless rooms. Kids who tested negative, who had…

I don't live in Quebec or have any knowledge of what is happening in that province, but this either sounds like there are mitigating situations that we're not aware of for this reaction, or an overreach by some board/school.

In Ontario, we were asked to isolate at home if there was any close contact with COVID at school and use remote learning if it was available for your class.

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Post by ryandrake »

BeefWellington wrote: post #448
dade_ wrote: post #399

It appears this was the result of terrible security at GiveSendGo. I'd agree it could be state sponsored, but I am certain there are enough people with the skills to do this on their own downtown Ottawa (even if it turned out they work for the gov't). That said, I am thoroughly disappointed the Federal gov't and much of the media coverage. They have done nothing but make the situation worse. I think it is intentional…

> The most insane was that all layers of government did nothing to stop the noise (truck horns), but it ended when a 21 year old who simply filed a court injunction and the protesters complied. > https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/injunction-ottawa-granted-1 ... This did not work though: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/protesters-violate-cou... The court order is just a threat and the Ottawa Police Service appear…

I think one point that the last two years has nailed home (around the world) is that how protestors are treated has little to do with what their tactics and behavior are, and more to do with simply whether their message ideologically aligns with the police.

If the police agree with some group of protestors, then they're treated with kid gloves, and can get away with anything. The police will throw their hands up and say "nope, can't possibly enforce the law anymore, so sorry!" and stand back. If the police do not agree with some other group of protestors, they're going to get beaten, pepper sprayed, and shot with rubber bullets, no matter how they behave. All of a sudden, enforcement is no problem.

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Post by purephase »

moralestapia wrote: post #514
purephase wrote: post #489

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Yes, I am. Noise pollution has the same effect on people regardless of the source. You pretty much proved my point by diminishing the one particular source of noise that you personally don't consider "as bad".

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Post by cf100clunk »

moralestapia wrote: post #508
cf100clunk wrote: post #481

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No, a dog barking 16-18 hours per day is illegal almost everywhere in Canada and the person(s) responsible face fines, at the least.

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A line in a Traveling Wilburys song goes "everything is legal as long as you don't get caught." That's what came to mind as I read your reply, which tacitly agrees with my parent comment.

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Post by throwaway894345 »

paulmd wrote: post #488
kerneloftruth wrote: post #454

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Yes. I've seen no evidence of stores being looted, businesses burned, or anybody throwing rocks at police -- all of which were common in 2020 BLM protests.

Well, now you have. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/ottawa-police-arson-in... https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/coutts-protest-blocka... As for the police - helps that a lot of them were tacitly helping the rioters. As usual, giving them fuel and supplies, and ignoring clear-cut violations of the law. Why throw rocks at an ally? Toronto and other cities may have shut them down, but the Ottawa cops were pre…

From your own link:

> Police have not confirmed any link between their investigation into this incident and the ongoing convoy protest.

Anyway, there's a pretty considerable difference between whatever this was and the images of burned down neighborhoods in the US.

https://www.google.com/search?q=kenosha+aftermath&client=saf...

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Post by manquer »

jollybean wrote: post #374
jeroenhd wrote: post #29

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It could be state sponsored hacking, but I think it's more likely to be don't by someone who got annoyed by the protests. If I had trucks honking in front of my window, I'd do whatever I could to get them to fuck off as well. No need for the state to get involved if you just piss off enough random people.

It's almost assuredly not done by someone who was directly 'annoyed' by the protests, that's a relatively small area, and hackers with skills are not that common. The protests are an ideological touchstone, there are surely a lot of hackers in this world keen on 'exposing terrible people' (in their purview) and my money is on just some random 'hacker'. I'm doubtful that it would be a government action, because those…

> That's a relatively small area, and hackers with skills are not that common.

It is not some high end zero day they discovered. It is just a misconfigured s3 bucket. There are tools out there which scan for this kind of thing without any code required.

While some level of technical expertise is required, most developers could something like this if sufficiently motivated

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