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Names of Canada truck convoy donors leaked after reported hack

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Post by logifail »

kstenerud wrote: post #512
logifail wrote: post #460

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> When unvaccinated COVID patients flood the hospitals [..] In our part of the world, despite eye-watering infection rates over the last few weeks, hospitals are absolutely nowhere near capacity (and that's putting it mildly). Were younger and fitter people really flooding hospitals if they got Covid? Thought the data on age and comorbidities is pretty clear and has been for a while now.[0][1] [0] https://www.thelanc…

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> The fact that Canadian hospitals haven't been overrun is testament to how well the situation is being handled. But one must remain vigilant. Even Germany had problems with their hospitals despite their best efforts.

Q1: Were Swedish hospitals overrun?

Q2: If not, why not?

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Post by AzzieElbab »

purephase wrote: post #483
AzzieElbab wrote: post #467

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what is wrong with listening to "minorities". Doesnt BLM represent a minority, especially in Canada? Also, a couple of confederate and nazi flags do not define these protests.

Hahaha.. this is a hilarious comment. These people are not the minority. They're self-professed victimes of so-called tyranny that doesn't exist. The sheer fact that they're able to protest for this long, in this way, at the nations capital is ample evidence that this so-called tyranny they're fighting is a delusion. Equivocating that with the lived experience of millions of people who are fighting for true equality…

minority does not need to be defined by race sex or religion. What about people who had covid and reluctant about vaccines? All that word soup is irrelevant. Getting fired after having worked through the heights of epidemic is a serious "lived experience" and also "an ample evidence" of bureaucratic overreach. Anyway, bunch of provinces including Ontario already cancelled vaccine mandates and vaccine passports, only real holdouts are BC and Quebec. Trackers already won. The government can easily deescalate but choosing not to due fear and spite

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Post by suckmore »

purephase wrote: post #455
canadianeh2 wrote: post #20

i have a 4 year old daughter in ontario who has never seen her friends faces or her teacher's face. she eats outside even when it's -20. as of today, no end in sight for these rules. why? it's shameful. im surprised the civil unrest in canada isnt worse.

Unless there's some crazy school board out there, there's no way they have kids eating outside when it's -20. Most school boards won't even have outdoor recess on days like that. I have 11 nieces and nephews in 5 different school boards in Ontario, and not one of them has these restrictions. They eat indoors, they can take their masks off at lunch, and during gym class. Their teachers regularly post videos for studen…

I don't live in Ontario and don't have kids, so I don't have any personal experience. This section of Joël Lightbound speech stood out to me though. It is regarding the apparent quarantine measures in Quebec. I can't substantiate it, so maybe it is completely sensationalized.

>In Quebec in January 22, we've locked up kids aged 6 to 10 years old for up to ten days in windowless rooms. Kids who tested negative, who had no symptoms, who came in contact though, with someone who had the virus.

Starts at 3:48

https://youtu.be/xuASydTUatI?t=228

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Post by jstream67 »

blast wrote: post #186
jeromegv wrote: post #42

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Foreign support to this movement is not exactly a secret. They were waiving Trump flags, confederate flags and lots of MAGA signs were seen among the protesters. Also the movement has been publicized on Fox News and by famous right-wing people in the US, that's just normal that it would eventually lead to a lot of people in the US deciding to start donating. The simplest explanation is more likely than the conspiracy…

This is a bit removed from your point about foreign support, but the flag thing appears to have been exaggerated for political purposes. The Confederate flag guy was shunned by the protestors and stood out like a sore thumb to begin with: https://twitter.com/VigilantFox/status/1487834109678395392 . (I'm not endorsing that Twitter account - it's the only link I know of to the video, and the video is interesting.) It h…

planting a 'nazi/white nationalist' in protests and then having the media focus on it seems like such a obvious tactic now that it is making me question every time this kind of thing occurs.

For example, remember the recent election in Virginia where there was a ton of media retweets of a picture of a handful of 'white supremacists' in front of the tour bus for the Republican candidate. The media made a huge deal about it and the reporter who was on the scene made all kinds of absurd tweets about things she 'overheard' them say. However it didn't take long before people found pictures of the 'White Supremacists' working for the Democrat candidates campaign. One was even driving the tour bus!

https://redstate.com/bonchie/2021/10/29/busted-multiple-part...

That was a almost absurdy poorly executed attempt at a political smear but it really opened my eyes to how easy it is to insert bad actors into an event - especially when you have a complicit media.

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Post by advisedwang »

monkeybutton wrote: post #422
advisedwang wrote: post #358

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What's the total number of donors / amount of donation? Apologies for not doing the research myself, I'm at work.

8.4M in donations plus another 0.57M going to GSG (not a bad racket eh?) over 92k rows. I'm using the word rows intentionally here because I can't make any claim about the number of actual individuals.

Thank you for all this great data! So the "big" donors (>=5k) are something like 4%. Truely does seem fairly grassroots-ish, assuming no shenanigans with the records people thing.

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Post by pyuser583 »

vzidex wrote: post #463
dade_ wrote: post #399

It appears this was the result of terrible security at GiveSendGo. I'd agree it could be state sponsored, but I am certain there are enough people with the skills to do this on their own downtown Ottawa (even if it turned out they work for the gov't). That said, I am thoroughly disappointed the Federal gov't and much of the media coverage. They have done nothing but make the situation worse. I think it is intentional…

Definition, martial law: Martial law is the temporary imposition of direct military control of normal civil functions or suspension of civil law by a government, especially in response to a temporary emergency where civil forces are overwhelmed, or in an occupied territory. [1] The key phrases are "imposition of direct military control of normal civil functions" and "suspension of civil law by a government". The Cana…

My understanding is that international law requires nation have some form of martial law.

The idea is that if your nation is “hosting” a battle field, and the police start arresting belligerents and charging them with civilian crimes, the military can override them and say “you can’t charge invading soldiers with a crime for honorably doing their duty” - they must be treated as POWs, not criminals.

For example, if Russia is attacking Toronto, and a Toronto Police Officer comes across a wounded Russian soldier with an AK-47, she can’t charge the soldier for possessing an illegal weapon. The soldier would have to be treated as a POW.

This means the military must - must! - be able to say “this area is under martial law”.

I doubt this applies to the current situation.

But if Canada is as diligent as they claim to be about International law, they need to have the ability to declare martial law.

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Post by [deleted] »

purephase wrote: post #447
eldaisfish wrote: post #420

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>there is no violence, and no obvious danger While there is no outright violence, there is torture to local residents, there was attempted arson, there is continued intimidation and harassment of those wearing masks, there is intimidation of visible minorities, there are attacks on businesses.... Is that enough to convince you that the situation is out of hand and than stricter action is needed? The protestors haven'…

I've said this before. There's a strong libertarian bent to HN and I'm not surprised if there's a large contingent of this site that actively supports the convoy. There's people here that are strong supports of Peter Thiel, if that's any indication of where their sympathies lie. But, most of them are not residents of Ottawa, and the lived experiences of people in that city, particurlarly those who have had run ins wi…

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Post by dang »

jagger27 wrote: post #498
0xy wrote: post #486

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Do you have any proof, or is it isolated incidents of conveniently fully masked agitators waving Nazi flags?

I am talking about written and video statements made by organizers, not individual protesters. > conveniently fully masked agitators I shouldn't even bother responding to this kind of disingenuous bait. Of course it's all a massive psyop false flag conspiracy to smear the good names of working class Canadians in it for the good fight, right.

I don't mean to pile on, having just responded to you in another thread (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30337439), but your comments on this topic are standing out as breaking the HN guidelines, and we need you to stop. Not only does this sort of flamewar contribute to destroying this place, it's not in anyone's real interest—including your own. I understand why emotions are super high on this topic, and legitimately so—but commenters here need to follow the site guidelines no matter how high their emotions are. Indeed, that's pretty much the only condition under which most of these guidelines are even needed in the first place: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html.

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Post by talentedcoin »

throwaway894345 wrote: post #516
talentedcoin wrote: post #484

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Yeah, seems super peaceful: https://ottawa.ctvnews.ca/mobile/ottawa-police-report-a-nigh... Please, spare me, and spare the rest of us, your poorly informed takes.

From your own link: > Residents complained about another night of illegal fireworks, loud music and horn honking Saturday night and Sunday morning. Loud music? Say it isn't so!

Also from my link:

"Overnight, demonstrators exhibited extremely disruptive and unlawful behaviour, which presented risks to public safety and unacceptable distress for Ottawa residents," said police.

Go ahead, keep digging. I can do this all day.

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Post by kayodelycaon »

wizzwizz4 wrote: post #438
arbitrage wrote: post #419

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If it's all theater, then it's worth pointing out the A/C/M times of files are easy to fake. A competent intruder can feather filesystem times and modify logs to point investigators toward the wrong conclusion.

Depends on the filesystem access. I didn't think Amazon buckets generally allowed that kind of thing.

It doesn't. There's no S3 API to change upload dates.
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