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Unvaccinated Canadians older than five who have to quarantine for fourteen days. A 14 day quarantine for an endemic virus just as present in Canada as anywhere else is a de facto prohibition.

Quarantine != "barred". Perhaps inconvenient to the point of rethinking the trip, yes, but that's different than a citizen being denied the right of return by their government. And even that inconvenience can be removed with a free, safe shot that takes 30 seconds to get for those that aren't prevented by some other health condition.

Former Newfoundland Premier Brian Peckford, one of the men who helped draft our Charter of Rights and Freedoms, is suing the government, claiming that these travel restrictions on Canadian citizens are unconstitutional.

It's a pretty remarkable situation to have someone who wrote our constitution pointing out that the government is in error.

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I guess that's what counts as hacktivism these days. Doxxing working class people and their supporters. It's nice to see the left and right's true colors here and how easily they pulled back the veil of opposition to reveal their true contempt for the lower classes and the real class war underpinning everything. These last two years, I have seen so much scary authoritarianism from well-meaning people using their own…

Being objective here: - 90 percent of Canada's truckers are vaccinated, so why are you using working class as a substitute for protestor, then using that to call this class warfare? - Don't you think working class people will care most about this list? The people with the most time to scour lists and make angry tweets probably most likely aren't UHNW individuals... - Don't you see the irony is claiming authoritariani…

You can be vaccinated and be against the mandate.

Re: Names of Canada truck convoy donors leaked after reported hack

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... but 2 years of government mandated economic destruction is fine? They didn't do all this in Sweden.

You know the reason why things aren't back to normal has little to do with mandates and a lot to do with the fact that, mandate or not, there was a deadly virus hanging around for two years and that's gonna change social behavior anyway?

Don't forget that 2 years of stress, angst, fear, new rules, normal hate of rules, etc. will make almost anyone stressed out and angry no matter how much they believe in the purpose behind it all, or how important it is.

Which when it's society wide, makes society stressed out and angry.

Stressed out and angry people do dumb and counter productive things. Sometimes even to the point of severe self harm.

Society when it is stressed out and angry tends to fragment and be less cohesive. Sometimes even to the point of severe self harm.

Wondering which side (or which sides there are, or why there even are 'sides') is doing the MOST dumb and counter productive thing is mostly part of the problem, not actually a solution, in the same way as a tired angry person trying to figure out who to yell at/blame, instead of getting some sleep or whatever.

Society wide, we need to do some serious self-care and calming the hell down - which would be nice, but good luck. So I expect we'll get a lot more fighting.

Re: Names of Canada truck convoy donors leaked after reported hack

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You're ignoring what I wrote entirely. We're not calling it an insurrection because it's a protest. We're calling it an insurrection because it's a protest with the express stated goal of overthrowing the democratically elected government.

Prove to me this effort is centralized and not some loon with zero say-so that a broadcast company quoted in a video to incense people and increase engagement. This is a protest with loads of people, and however much you want to distillate them into a caricature, they're ultimately acting independently and can withdraw their support. That is to say, because some few individuals may have said some extreme thing, doesn…

Canada Unity is one of the co-organizers of this event.[1]

This is what their "Memorandum of Understanding" stated one month ago[2] (January 13):

    ARTICLE 1. SCOPE of ACCORD

    Canada Unity (CU) offers this “Memorandum” to the Senate of Canada and the Governor General of Canada, the highest authorities representing the Federal Government (SCGGC) as “The Government of Canada”. Acceptance by endorsement of this “Memorandum” and its valuable considerations, will solidify our mutual accord as further detailed in the understanding.

    ARTICLE 2. OBLIGATION and COOPERATION

    The appointed “Entities” agree to work together in the true spirit of partnership to ensure there is a united, visible, and responsive leadership of the “Initiative” and to demonstrate fair practice according to the Canadian Constitution, Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms, and Privacy Act and as further described in Article 3.d. of this “Memorandum” administrative and managerial commitment to the
“Initiative”.

    ARTICLE 3. MANDATE

    a. CU & SCGGC agree to form a committee, called the Citizens of Canada Committee (CCC).

    b. SCGGC undertakes and appoints authorized (CCC) representatives.

    c. CU undertakes and appoints authorized (CCC) representatives.

    d. CU & SCGGC adopts and adheres to The Government of Canada’s agreements on transparency in matters related to the Canadian Federal Referendum Act, Canadian Constitution, Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms, Access to Information Act and the Privacy Act, Canadian Human Rights Act, Canadian Bill of Rights, National Security Act 2017, Crimes Against Humanity and War Crimes Act, Tri Council Policy Statement, National and International Human Rights Declarations and such Regulations et al, the Nuremberg Code, the Declaration of Helsinki all as provided by law, and not only limited to latest additions, addendums and revisions; and to be precise including laws, regulations and declarations prior to SARS-CoV-2, and any subsequent variations of SARS-CoV-2.

    e. SCGGC will effective as of midnight on this ___, day of ___________, 2021 instruct all levels of the Federal, Provincial, Territorial, and Municipal governments to immediately cease and desist all unconstitutional human rights, discriminatory and segregated actions, and not limited to, immediately instruct all levels of the Federal, Provincial, Territorial and Municipal governments to not only stop, but furthermore waive all SARS-CoV-2 (and not limited to SARS-CoV-2 subsequent variations) fines that have been issued and imposed upon its citizens, institutions, and private enterprises.

    f. SCGGC will effective as of midnight on this ___, day of ___________, 2021, instruct all levels of the Federal, Provincial, Territorial, and Municipal governments to re-instate all employees in all branches of governments and, not limited to promote the same to the private industry and
institutional sectors employees with full lawful employment rights prior to the wrongful and unlawful dismissals that stem from the SARS-CoV-2 (and not limited to SARS-CoV-2 subsequent variations) vaccine passport mandates.

    g. SCGGC will effective as of midnight on this ___, day of ___________, 2021, issue a cease-and-desist order abolishing all Federal, Provincial, Territorial, and Municipal Vaccine Passport requirements, Vaccine discriminatory regulations, initiatives, and mandates in regard to SARS-CoV-2 (and not limited to SARS-CoV-2 subsequent variations).

    h. Further, SCGGC will effective as of midnight on this ___, day of ___________, 2021, issue a cease-and-desist order to the respected Honorable Members of the Government of Canada with the consequent instructions to further instruct the Premiers of the Provinces and Territories, the
Mayors of the respected Municipalities and, the respected Federal, Provincial, Territorial, and Municipal Medical Officers to stop all such unlawful activities pursuant to ARTICLE 3. MANDATE section d. of this “Memorandum.”

    i. Canada is a lawful member of the Helsinki Declaration to name one but not limited to additional Canadian and International Human Rights Laws and Regulations et al and therefore enacts its duty and responsibility to make any and all laws and regulations available to its citizens; further, to enforce and uphold such laws, regulations, and declaration(s) on behalf of its Citizens of Canada.

    j. By signing this “Memorandum”, CU will immediately stop “Operation Bear Hug Ottawa”, demonstration / convoy and Federal Referendum activities and will strive to work with all groups and entities et al to bring this country together in unity.

    k. CU & SCGGC agree to have the CCC committee formed within 10 days of acceptance and signing of this “Memorandum”.

    l. CU & SCGGC agree to have a final “signed” and publicly released agreement in place within “no later than 90 days” of acceptance and signing of this “Memorandum”.

    m. CU & SCGGC agree to only release jointly approved media / press statements on a daily basis during the time schedule specified in ARTICLE 3. MANDATE section paragraph k. and l.

    n. SCGGC will immediately make available all schedules as described in ARTICLE 3. MANDATE section paragraph d. available to the CCC committee.
(Document continues)

Effectively they want to appoint a governing body to this committee and usurp the governance of the duly elected MPs of the government, effectively dissolving it, and then end all federal and provincially-imposed imposed mandates. The problem is, the Federal government cannot force provinces to end mandates.

They have since withdrawn this memorandum specifically because they found out their movement was not as popular as they believed.[3]

It is currently very unpopular.[4]

[1]: https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/who-is-who-a-guide-to-the-majo...

[2]: https://web.archive.org/web/20220113155334/https://canada-un...

[3]: https://web.archive.org/web/20220213145435/https://canada-un...

[4]: https://angusreid.org/trudeau-convoy-trucker-protest-vaccine...

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Re: Names of Canada truck convoy donors leaked after reported hack

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If you're going to attack "media mischaracterizations" let's be truthful. > but because white collar, work-at-home employees are mildly inconvenienced for a week, they're advocating police action against them and calling it an insurrection. "Mildly inconvenienced" is an interesting term for shutting down a border crossing that handles $350 million in trade per day. "Mildly inconvenienced" is an interesting term for r…

>"Mildly inconvenienced" is an interesting term for shutting down a border crossing that handles $350 million in trade per day. One lane of the bridge was open and the Detroit tunnel had absolutely no blockade. This is a mild inconvenience. Protests are inconvenient to be sure. If the media you consume portrayed this as if there was no traffic at all between detroit and windsor... time for you to look to new media. I…

Since you donated money to them, you probably would like to know that the manifesto of the organizers who setup the GoFundMe and started the convoy explicitly wanted the Governor General and Senate to meet with the organizers and form a committee to replace the federal government. [1] They only recently stepped back from the manifesto a few days ago. [2]

1. https://www.iheartradio.ca/newstalk-1010/audio/podcasts/the-... 2. https://nationalpost.com/news/politics/protest-organizer-no-...

Re: Names of Canada truck convoy donors leaked after reported hack

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For those of you still on the fence or just learning about this, here's a rundown of the fine people in charge of this travesty of a "protest": https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/who-is-who-a-guide-to-the-majo... PAT KING: Pat King is a far-right protester who has said in videos posted to social media that there may be future plans to target politicians' homes and that "the only way that this is going to be solved is with…

I genuinely wonder how many of the people protesting actually know who this person is or what he believes (if the parent comment even accurately represents him--I really have no idea). Reminds me of how people would criticize BLM protests on the basis that some people in the BLM org had ties to communism--a very weak criticism considering how many better criticisms existed and how few of the protesters had related vi…

You think pointing out that there’s far-right extremists managing this whole show is a “weak indictment” when one of the stated goals of said protest is to overturn a democratically elected government?

Re: Names of Canada truck convoy donors leaked after reported hack

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> the timing of this seems to point to state sponsored hacking, no? No. The hack was obviously politically motivated, beyond that, nothing here points towards it being state sponsored. Non-state actors are equally motivated by the timing. The idea that the Canadian government hacked GiveSendGo is also frankly ridiculous. Our government just isn't that lawless, and they could almost certainly get this data via legal m…

> Our government just isn't that lawless Both recent and historical evidence does not really support this claim. It is very very very easy to find many examples of governments breaking the law for their own benefit. I don’t think it was the Canadian government either, but your logic does not seem good.

imo our government is probably lawless enough, but I doubt that it is competent enough to pull something off like that. The CSIS pays bad wages, their employees are mostly there for the cushy 9 to 5.

Re: Names of Canada truck convoy donors leaked after reported hack

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Who is barred? I’ve travelled to Canada to visit family a number of times last year and once so far this year. I have another trip planned for late spring. Canadian citizens enter by right.

Unvaccinated Canadians older than five who have to quarantine for fourteen days. A 14 day quarantine for an endemic virus just as present in Canada as anywhere else is a de facto prohibition.

they can go get the safe, effective vaccine for free so they don't have to quarantine

Re: Names of Canada truck convoy donors leaked after reported hack

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There's plenty of techies in Ottawa with the means, motives and opportunities to perform this action. People over there are quite annoyed at the truckers, so I wouldn't be surprised if it's someone related who's annoyed at the whole situation. No need for state sponsorship to find poorly secured data.

Re: Names of Canada truck convoy donors leaked after reported hack

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Why jump to state-sponsored? This would be the exact right time for anyone ideologicaly opposed to the protest's motivations to hack donor data.

Are there non-authoritarians that want jab mandates so badly that they will hack websites to doxx innocent protestors? Could be, I haven't met any (thankfully)

Plenty of people may not want jab mandates, may not be authoritarians, but are in earshot/irritation reach of the protests. And considering how badly the information was secured, pretty much anyone who knows anything about an S3 bucket seems like they could have done it. Not even really hacking.
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