The “Why?” section of the home page is rather disingenuous, since the Economist is not “SEO optimized garbage”, nor does it want you to “sign up for some newsletter”. It’s just an excellent newspaper that needs to pay the staff that writes all those articles. Just like 12ft.io needs to pay its hosting provider.
I'd be fine with that if they didn't let search engines crawl their content. If they want to be on the web, they have to play by the rules of the web. Instead what they want is to reap the benefits of the web while refusing to participate in the open web.
On the Future of 12ft
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#83The “Why?” section of the home page is rather disingenuous, since the Economist is not “SEO optimized garbage”, nor does it want you to “sign up for some newsletter”. It’s just an excellent newspaper that needs to pay the staff that writes all those articles. Just like 12ft.io needs to pay its hosting provider.
I'd be fine with that if they didn't let search engines crawl their content. If they want to be on the web, they have to play by the rules of the web. Instead what they want is to reap the benefits of the web while refusing to participate in the open web.
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#84It is not that I don't know how to "hack" and find ways to read paywalled articles -- almost every paywalled website is un-paywallable. It is that it is very irritating, and taxes the brain.
I pay for quite a few of them, hoping to support the writers, and do not worry about finding ways to find ways around. Eventually, I do NOT read more than 2-3 articles a week from them. Most of the time, months goes by without even stumbling on a single article from such publications.
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#85How is 12ft Ladder any different than this Github repo that does the same thing? This is one of the more popular repos as well at 22k stars. Genuinely curious, as I've just been using [1] and have had no issues bypassing paywalls. If 12ft has access to more sites, or something, that would be a better use case. The owner of the repo does not even want donations, just a star, otherwise, I'd contribute! [1] https://gith…
It's not any different. It actually can access fewer sites, since some sites have disabled it, presumably by paying the owner? The only advantage of 12ft.io is that you have a shareable link for friends, and that it can be used on mobile. Btw, you should switch the better maintained version of the Bypass Paywalls extension: https://gitlab.com/magnolia1234/bypass-paywalls-chrome-clean
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#87Well this is ironic. Well intentioned developer creates site to bypass paywalls. Site is a popular success, and begins to cost too much money for the developer to maintain. Developer comes up with a solution which is to introduce an optional paywall. I'm not just poking fun... I actually sympathize because I'm in a similar situation with one of my projects. I've had to reconsider being a 100% ideals-based person and…
I made a website for piracy when I was a kid and did the exact same thing; was definitely ironic for people to pay for something to avoid paying. But I think it always has been and will continue to be more of a UX problem than a "wanting stuff for completely free" problem. Case in point, a couple hours ago I tried to stream the Super Bowl from the official NFL website, but failed multiple times to finish their checko…
I've tried to support "traditional journalism gone digital" too! I paid for a subscription to Ars Technica once, but the website kept logging me out, so I needed an ad-blocker anyways. They also said they would send me a free WIRED subscription, but they sent me Sports Illustrated for a year. I tried to subscribe to The Atlantic, and after I paid, I learned I somehow signed up for a digital version that still included ads, because ad-free was a subscription offer that was limited and had to be specifically clicked on (the general site subscription wasn't the same as the ad-free one).
I want to support journalism! I give out $100ish a-month in pixiv fanbox subscriptions and patreon subscriptions. But I'm not going to give any payment information to sketchy sites that just make it impossible to cancel and have terrible experiences. It's not worth paying for the hassle of that.
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#88Every time I tried to use this thing it said it was disabled for every site I tried.
Similarly Outline: https://www.wsj.com/articles/why-financing-the-multi-trillio...
But the current top comment's txtify did: https://txtify.it/https://www.wsj.com/articles/why-financing... (though this doesn't have pictures)
Honestly I find that the vast majority of these services don't work. And then when they do work they don't work for long and we're just in a cat and mouse game.
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#89This person is asking for money in order to help provide a service… and that service is “stop other people from asking for money to provide a service.” Hard not to feel a little irony. There are approximately three outcomes here. 1. Google shuts this guy down, some way or another 2. Paywalled sites sue this into oblivion Or worst of all , 3. Google stops being able to usefully surface decent news content. Paywalls ar…
How is "Google isn't allowed to scrap site to power their site for free" the worst option. Google can write a few checks to access the data. They have enough money.
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#90The “Why?” section of the home page is rather disingenuous, since the Economist is not “SEO optimized garbage”, nor does it want you to “sign up for some newsletter”. It’s just an excellent newspaper that needs to pay the staff that writes all those articles. Just like 12ft.io needs to pay its hosting provider.