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Let the market handle this. Simply close stores with high theft rates, which will happen anyway since they’re unprofitable.
Yea I mean why have police at all? Just let the market sort out all out. If people keep getting shot, we’ll eventually the neighborhood will empty out and no more shootings!
I'd like anyone who considers more harsh jail punishments to be the solution to consider that the USA has the highest per-capita prison population in the world. Only 1/5 of those prisoners is in there for drug-related crime. Perhaps harsher punishments aren't going to help here.
I’d also like anyone who promotes harsher punishments to actually go through the system for just a day before they insist on locking others into it. Getting arrested permanently changed my view on our justice system. It was a nonviolent offense, related to a paperwork issue, but it resulted in a bench warrant being issued for me. If I hadn’t just received several thousand dollars in my account from an unexpected wind…
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Why should firefighters put out fires? They make no money from it. It costs them money in equipment wear, water usage, etc.!
Because they get paid to do it - they literally make money from fighting fires
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> This shoplifting epidemic is happening because no one is going to jail for this. Is that true? https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/may/17/walmart-shop...
The article you have provided is from 2018 and primarily deals with a single individual that had several other outstanding warrants, it has no bearing on what was stated prior.
I disagree, I do think people are going to jail for this.
I'd like anyone who considers more harsh jail punishments to be the solution to consider that the USA has the highest per-capita prison population in the world. Only 1/5 of those prisoners is in there for drug-related crime. Perhaps harsher punishments aren't going to help here.
Consider another few possibilities. 1. Americans are just more likely to be criminals. 2. Other nations may be equally or even more ineffective at tackling crime. The assumption that jail doesn't work rests on the assumption that other nations track crime as effectively and that their people are equally criminal.
3. The American system is putting a lot of innocent people behind bars.
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Why should firefighters put out fires? They make no money from it. It costs them money in equipment wear, water usage, etc.!
I'm sympathetic to your grandparent statement (closing stores can really screw their patrons), but the comparison to firefighters is apples to oranges. Firefighting is a civic utility-everyone contributes a little bit for the service. Grocery stores are not, in most locales.
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Why should firefighters put out fires? They make no money from it. It costs them money in equipment wear, water usage, etc.!
People could pay for a service where firefighters would come and put out a potential fire at their house.
> Yes, but: An analysis of crime statistics and other reporting by The Atlantic [1] cast doubt on what it called the "great shoplifting freak-out," citing "fuzzy data" and asserting that what's being lumped together as shoplifting is actually a variety of violent crimes.
[1] https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2021/12/shoplifti...
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Why should my grocery store close because people are stealing things from it? What do I do, just starve?
I mean, if the people running the store can't profitably operate (due to theft or other factors), why should they operate? Why should the owners of that supermarket go into ruin just to give you another shopping option? Why is it their responsibility to keep you fed at all?
Let the market handle this. Simply close stores with high theft rates, which will happen anyway since they’re unprofitable.
> Let the market handle this. Not sure I want that. When the state refuses to protect private property, the market solution tends to look more like Vito Corleone. That's especially true when it appears certain organized crime groups are perpetrating coordinated thefts like the one at Nordstrom. The big corporations can't afford to to have mafia payments on the books, but they can afford to pack up and leave or encase…
While that would indeed he instructive, it also would be quite destructive. I hope California can return to protecting the liberties that were already well-understood 200 years ago without going to such extremes.