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Re: Discord is a black hole for information

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Post by slightwinder »

andrecarini wrote: post #122
opdahl wrote: post #7

What is strange about Discord is this great discrepancy between the ones that love it and the ones that hate it. If I were to guess on the reason of why that might be it would be that Discord is probably really good for the people that are constantly on it, and don't really miss any communication going in. These people have probably been there for some time so they don't feel the problem of not knowing where the past…

A couple of things I personally find disappointing in Discord: 1) No concept of isolated identities for each server (or group of servers). 2) I use Discord maybe once per week, and every time I do, I have to log in again. The phone app quietly disconnects after a week or so. 3) Hard to find messages I have been mentioned in. I think there's an "inbox" that clears itself out after X days. 4) Pollution, mostly visually…

> 2) I use Discord maybe once per week, and every time I do, I have to log in again. The phone app quietly disconnects after a week or so.

Do you perhaps have multiple sessions of discord open at the same time? I only get the login when I accidentally open discord multiple times, otherwise I never really get asked for a login.

Re: Discord is a black hole for information

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Post by remram »

doublerabbit wrote: post #183
remram wrote: post #165

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What personal information? All you need is a screen name. I don't think Discord even requires an email to join a server (if guests are enabled).

You do require email and mobile authentication text message on sign up.

But you don't have to sign up to chat, you can open Discord in your browser and join a server as guest. Granted, the server might limit what guests can do.

I just went through the sign-up process and no phone number was required though, only email.

Re: Discord is a black hole for information

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Post by pndy »

Accacin wrote: post #124
opdahl wrote: post #7

What is strange about Discord is this great discrepancy between the ones that love it and the ones that hate it. If I were to guess on the reason of why that might be it would be that Discord is probably really good for the people that are constantly on it, and don't really miss any communication going in. These people have probably been there for some time so they don't feel the problem of not knowing where the past…

To be honest, I do like Discord, but I only really use it for gaming with friends. We set up a server and use it for multiplayer games, occasionally share memes, etc. I really do not like it for communities, there's too much noise and too many annoucements.

In the last years I saw same amount of jerks on both. Trying to get help, any form of help or giving a feedback result in same canned replies, or irrelevant comments where you can clearly see people want to have own 5 mins of the Internet fame of becoming a meme. Also, on discord you have still a chance to reply but on forums people who become mods and who clearly shouldn't have been given such task in first place, will lock your thread and you can bite the dust. It's like you'd give the mythical Karen a chance to become the manager /s.

Re: Discord is a black hole for information

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Post by wyclif »

Smithalicious wrote: post #90
opdahl wrote: post #7

What is strange about Discord is this great discrepancy between the ones that love it and the ones that hate it. If I were to guess on the reason of why that might be it would be that Discord is probably really good for the people that are constantly on it, and don't really miss any communication going in. These people have probably been there for some time so they don't feel the problem of not knowing where the past…

In my experience discord servers will scale up to about about 20 people at most. I don't think that's the use case model discord is trying to push, but I think there's a large long tail of small friends-only discord servers in the order of 3-20 people. Within those parameters discord does work well. Nothing else has the necessary creature comforts (by default). I think most of my friends have misgivings about discord…

About half of the Discord servers I have joined completely stalled and became ghost towns; when they did I deleted them. The bigger ones, while thriving, have huge numbers of users but are terrible for finding information that the org they represent needs to retain.

Re: Discord is a black hole for information

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Post by phendrenad2 »

Discord is perfect, the only problem is backing up that information. I'm on several Rust discords. There's several orders of magnitude more discussion on there than the rust subreddit. If in 5 years the admins abandon one of the discords, and it gets taken over by trolls, and Discord is forced to ban the group, will that information vanish into the ether? Currently the answer is yes. But ideally there would be some way to archive channels to your own site or something.

Re: Discord is a black hole for information

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Post by BeFlatXIII »

emptybottle wrote: post #130

Discord channel sprawl is a strange phenomenon. It happens to each server I’ve joined, just gets worse over time. I think park of the issue is that you cant /part a channel in discord. Every channel you have access is automatically joined, you can’t leave and you have to adjust notifications for each to avoid an overwhelming number of messages. That and the communities are usually small-ish so you have the same peopl…

Every server eventually adds channels for memes, general off-topic, and pets.

Re: Discord is a black hole for information

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Post by mcintyre1994 »

kristjank wrote: post #115
unpopularopp wrote: post #37

Discord "won me" over the voice chat. It's just so easy to use and setup for people. I know it's a hard pill to swallow on HN but NOT everyone wants and/or can run their own TS/Mumble/Ventrilo server. That's the number 1 reason Discord became popular in gaming groups. Want voice chat for your WoW raid? 2 clicks. Going to play CSOG with your friends? Here is the voice chat channel. Discord is not perfect for sure (the…

You can get just as good voice chat on Signal, and it is miles easier to use than Discord, especially for people familiar with WhatsApp, Viber and other privacy invaders. And all of the screenshares and embeds that Discord gets glorified over work just as well over [matrix]

Does Signal even have some sort of channels? From their website it looks like it's just chats like iMessage/WhatsApp etc? It might be great at what it does but no Discord I'm in would work without channels.

Re: Discord is a black hole for information

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Post by pndy »

cyborgx7 wrote: post #49

Discord being a black hole for information is a feature, not a bug. It's for in the moment communication with some asynchronous applicability. But if you use it as your primary source for community-created information, you're using it wrong.

I think that feature makes quite obvious why Microsoft was interested in purchasing Discord - that would give Redmond an enormous amount of information to mine through every second, every day

Re: Discord is a black hole for information

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Post by mitchtbaum »

Hence the quote, "Issue queue or it didn't happen." That was Drupal's idiom and it still applies to projects in general.

> While all of these other communication mechanisms are great, esp. for hashing things out more effectively in real time, it's absolutely critical that a summary of what was talked about make its way back here for the benefit of those who couldn't be there, including Google, and yourself 2 weeks later when you totally forget what you talked about. :P There needs to be a URL to point people at who have questions later on. However. As a text-based medium, the issue queues are an ABSOLUTELY HORRIBLE medium through which to have a heated discussion about whatever. For that you turn to one of the others.

https://www.reddit.com/r/drupal/comments/1qz9l9/i_am_angie_w...

Re: Discord is a black hole for information

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Post by maven29 »

charcircuit wrote: post #142
kristjank wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can get just as good voice chat on Signal, and it is miles easier to use than Discord, especially for people familiar with WhatsApp, Viber and other privacy invaders. And all of the screenshares and embeds that Discord gets glorified over work just as well over [matrix]

>and it is miles easier to use than Discord No, it's not. With Discord you can just send them a link and have them join your chat / vc. They don't need to install an app, not do they need to make an account.

Navigation is horribly broken if you don't login. You're just stuck in a loop typing in usernames.

Several OSS projects that I've seen even have sophisticated bot protection and code of conduct agreement schemes that will hide the useful channels until you apply reactions on verification messages.

IRC channels used to keep public logs. Can we at least have parity with that?

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