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Re: Discord is a black hole for information

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Post by ilaksh »

What's the alternative? Matrix or something?

It's weird that people have gotten so down on the concept of p2p and all in on federated services. To me it's so obvious that p2p systems have a huge advantage as far as adoption possibilities.

Maybe what we need is something like Web gateways for p2p services.

Have some ideas about a distributed live forum that uses webrtc and IPFS or something but since it's such an interesting idea to me and also not fully formed that usually means other people will hate it with passion and bury the comment.. making it a total waste of time to try to develop or explain the idea.

Re: Discord is a black hole for information

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Post by toastercat »

binwiederhier wrote: post #13

As a maintainer of a small open source project I have to disagree. The hurdle for someone to join Discord and ask a question is much lower than signing up to a custom forum and posting there. I also love interacting with people that use my stuff. Makes me feel warm and fuzzy to see that people are actually using it. I can see the other side of course. There are a few things that are repeated questions or useful conte…

Gitter is better for your use-case. The search just sucks, but there are archive pages. You can also use a Matrix client to access Gitters.

Re: Discord is a black hole for information

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Post by rchaud »

cybarDOTlive wrote: post #126

I was just interested in learning about a micro blogging project from Twitter and their blog is basically empty, but the discord has a lot of activity. It's a bit jarring to see these professionals interacting on a gaming platform, and adds a lot of friction for me personally. I'm really interested in the technology and updates but not enough to sift through their chitchatting. No offense. https://blueskyweb.org/ htt…

It's precisely the pointless chitchat that makes the UX of Discord so bad for Reddit/Stack Overflow like use cases. I'm not there to socialize!

Re: Discord is a black hole for information

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Post by spockz »

remram wrote: post #158
charcircuit wrote: post #136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Without nitro you can still nickname yourself.

People will still see the "server you're both in" and the game your currently playing, etc. Not good for work servers.

Although you can disable automatically setting your status to whichever game you are playing though.

Re: Discord is a black hole for information

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Post by remram »

xigoi wrote: post #139
3OCSzk wrote: post #125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It might be easier but I'm not leaking my phone number just to have voice chat with internet friends

So it's better to leak over other personal information? Use Jitsi or something.

What personal information? All you need is a screen name. I don't think Discord even requires an email to join a server (if guests are enabled).

Re: Discord is a black hole for information

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Post by zozbot234 »

simias wrote: post #26
opdahl wrote: post #7

What is strange about Discord is this great discrepancy between the ones that love it and the ones that hate it. If I were to guess on the reason of why that might be it would be that Discord is probably really good for the people that are constantly on it, and don't really miss any communication going in. These people have probably been there for some time so they don't feel the problem of not knowing where the past…

I've been using IRC for decades at this point and Discord is, seemingly, a modern, proprietary version of IRC so I assumed I'd feel at home the few times I've been invited to participate on it, but in practice it was an overwhelming, rather unpleasant experience and I never stuck with it. I think the main difference is that on IRC you'd usually be invited to a specific channel and you'd slowly work your way to other…

Matrix is a good middle ground; free and non-proprietary, but it still offers a few convenience features compared to IRC (which is a bit clunky by modern standards).

Re: Discord is a black hole for information

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Post by binwiederhier »

vorpalhex wrote: post #155
binwiederhier wrote: post #13

As a maintainer of a small open source project I have to disagree. The hurdle for someone to join Discord and ask a question is much lower than signing up to a custom forum and posting there. I also love interacting with people that use my stuff. Makes me feel warm and fuzzy to see that people are actually using it. I can see the other side of course. There are a few things that are repeated questions or useful conte…

I'm a discord user. I'm in several servers. I'm even Nitro. ...and I'm probably not going to join your server to ask questions or get help. If I can't get help via your git platform or shoot off an email, I'm probably just going to not use the software. Gitter, for all it's flaws, is ok for this case. The effort to join is very low. Discord is a whole beast. Every server has a gauntlet to join with a dozen bots and c…

I guess it is a personal preference then. I don't think any project will stop you from posting questions on GitHub in their issues. I for one will happily answer questions in discord or GitHub issues. I don't know about others.

Re: Discord is a black hole for information

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Post by xigoi »

remram wrote: post #165
xigoi wrote: post #139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So it's better to leak over other personal information? Use Jitsi or something.

What personal information? All you need is a screen name. I don't think Discord even requires an email to join a server (if guests are enabled).

It's nonfree software, so you can only assume that it's spying on you.

Re: Discord is a black hole for information

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Post by pteraspidomorph »

donkarma wrote: post #132
unpopularopp wrote: post #37

Discord "won me" over the voice chat. It's just so easy to use and setup for people. I know it's a hard pill to swallow on HN but NOT everyone wants and/or can run their own TS/Mumble/Ventrilo server. That's the number 1 reason Discord became popular in gaming groups. Want voice chat for your WoW raid? 2 clicks. Going to play CSOG with your friends? Here is the voice chat channel. Discord is not perfect for sure (the…

yeah how long until they run out of VC funding? no chance this is profitable. i know many people who use discord as their personal cloud storage

Anecdotally, yes, but I doubt most users deliberately make themselves unprofitable. There're millions of kids who just want to use voice chat and share meme gifs. Plus Discord has been gating a lot of features behind Nitro in recent years, and they make a lot of money from Nitro/Boost purchases (it's hard to tell since they're privately owned but they might make close to 200 million this year). I suspect they can stay afloat without VC funding (though they keep getting it anyway). And their valuation is really high.

Re: Discord is a black hole for information

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Post by binwiederhier »

Prestoon wrote: post #88
binwiederhier wrote: post #13

As a maintainer of a small open source project I have to disagree. The hurdle for someone to join Discord and ask a question is much lower than signing up to a custom forum and posting there. I also love interacting with people that use my stuff. Makes me feel warm and fuzzy to see that people are actually using it. I can see the other side of course. There are a few things that are repeated questions or useful conte…

One of my biggest issues is that the principles and ideas that come with the open source community are practically shutout by the use of discord. Information does not flow freely, it's locked in a server and it's not easily accessible by other people. It's not indexed by search engines. It might as well be missing completely. Half the time I plan to learn an open source project and learn that the majority of the disc…

Isn't it an illusion though that GitHub is more accessible than discord? Yes, it's indexed by Google, buy these days it'll disappear quickly if it is deleted. I don't even know if all of GitHub and its issues are even indexed to be honest.

You are right though that GitHub is at least accessible read only without an account.

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