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Discord is a black hole for information

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Re: Discord is a black hole for information

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Endless scrolling is a black hole for information. And the hawking radiation that comes out is keyboard diarrhea. If I were trying to subtly encourage pounding out content free crap, I would probably want people to use difficult to search, non paginated scroll feeds as much as possible. Discord might be a black hole, but Discourse has some of the same properties. Facebook is the same way. Anything that funnels people…

you can search everything in discourse and categorize it, it has all the same features you mentioned about github

I never lose info like I do in discord

Re: Discord is a black hole for information

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Discord "won me" over the voice chat. It's just so easy to use and setup for people. I know it's a hard pill to swallow on HN but NOT everyone wants and/or can run their own TS/Mumble/Ventrilo server. That's the number 1 reason Discord became popular in gaming groups. Want voice chat for your WoW raid? 2 clicks. Going to play CSOG with your friends? Here is the voice chat channel. Discord is not perfect for sure (the…

yeah how long until they run out of VC funding? no chance this is profitable. i know many people who use discord as their personal cloud storage

Re: Discord is a black hole for information

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Check out Discourse, which is a proper, modern forum and a way better experience.

aaand it costs $100/mo vs Discord being free and everyone who joins needs to create new account per instance

discourse is open source, you can put it on a raspberry pi

Re: Discord is a black hole for information

#134

As a maintainer of a small open source project I have to disagree. The hurdle for someone to join Discord and ask a question is much lower than signing up to a custom forum and posting there. I also love interacting with people that use my stuff. Makes me feel warm and fuzzy to see that people are actually using it. I can see the other side of course. There are a few things that are repeated questions or useful conte…

The issue of the barrier to entering a forum and ask a question used to be a non-issue, as it was easily solved by appending a shout-box to it. Ephemeral, anonymous, low barrier chat coexisted with search engine-indexed, longer-form forum threads (as well as pinned threads that had a similar function to a wiki).

Pseudonyms were less of a problem when you could use a different pseudonym in each forum, while on Discord/Reddit you are mostly confined to a single identity for all forums.

Having a barrier of entry in the form of having to sign up to a custom forum to participate on threads had its problems, but was useful in preventing spam and low-effort content. Most larger Discord servers I've been in try to replicate this property by requiring some sort of authentication for new members to be able to even look at the discussions on most of the channels.

Discord seems to stand on the middle ground between a shout-box, a message board and social media walls: like a shout-box, discussions are ephemeral and non-paginated, and not indexed on the web; like a message board, you can look up older messages; like social media, it nudges you into using a single account for all your different interests. I can see how this combination can work for some people and for some purposes, and I use it myself, but I much prefer the days of message boards and IRC.

Re: Discord is a black hole for information

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What is strange about Discord is this great discrepancy between the ones that love it and the ones that hate it. If I were to guess on the reason of why that might be it would be that Discord is probably really good for the people that are constantly on it, and don't really miss any communication going in. These people have probably been there for some time so they don't feel the problem of not knowing where the past…

I've been using IRC for decades at this point and Discord is, seemingly, a modern, proprietary version of IRC so I assumed I'd feel at home the few times I've been invited to participate on it, but in practice it was an overwhelming, rather unpleasant experience and I never stuck with it. I think the main difference is that on IRC you'd usually be invited to a specific channel and you'd slowly work your way to other…

>what they abusively call a "server"

It's modeled off of IRC / Mumble / TS / Vent terminology. A server is home to many channels which one can join.

Re: Discord is a black hole for information

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A couple of things I personally find disappointing in Discord: 1) No concept of isolated identities for each server (or group of servers). 2) I use Discord maybe once per week, and every time I do, I have to log in again. The phone app quietly disconnects after a week or so. 3) Hard to find messages I have been mentioned in. I think there's an "inbox" that clears itself out after X days. 4) Pollution, mostly visually…

if you pay for nitro you can change your identity per server

Without nitro you can still nickname yourself.

Re: Discord is a black hole for information

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Around a certain age one's tolerance for such bullshit goes to zero. Discord, slack, et al would be doing the world a great service if their tools had notifications etc SWITCHED OFF BY DEFAULT so that they don't disturb other people in the same room as the user. Such notifications are designed to break your concentration / get your attention, but they have the toxic side-effect of polluting the environment of other p…

The first thing I tend to do when I join a new Discord server is mute it.

Re: Discord is a black hole for information

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What is strange about Discord is this great discrepancy between the ones that love it and the ones that hate it. If I were to guess on the reason of why that might be it would be that Discord is probably really good for the people that are constantly on it, and don't really miss any communication going in. These people have probably been there for some time so they don't feel the problem of not knowing where the past…

You are missing the meta of informational channels which are read only channels which come with information for people to reference. Past information can be collected in these channels.

Re: Discord is a black hole for information

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You can get just as good voice chat on Signal, and it is miles easier to use than Discord, especially for people familiar with WhatsApp, Viber and other privacy invaders. And all of the screenshares and embeds that Discord gets glorified over work just as well over [matrix]

It might be easier but I'm not leaking my phone number just to have voice chat with internet friends

So it's better to leak over other personal information? Use Jitsi or something.
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