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Heart-disease risk soars after Covid, even with a mild case

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Re: Heart-disease risk soars after Covid, even with a mild case

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Post by raxxorrax »

lucd wrote: post #144
shermand89 wrote: post #122

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If there was such obvious nefarious and severe effects, pharmacovigilance would have seen it. Malone is one of the worst disinformer https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2021/08/robert-m...

There actually is an significant increase in heart problem for young people. Especially in young women and it is assumed that it is connected to uptake of the pill in very early years.

Malone isn't worse than the standard CNN toyboy and the Atlantic isn't too reliable either. At least the online version.

Re: Heart-disease risk soars after Covid, even with a mild case

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Post by DwarvenAcademy »

bpizzi wrote: post #132
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I am 31 and got a heart attack caused by a blood clot last year. Had to undergo double bypass surgery. This happened two months after my second shot so every doctor dismissed the fact of it being related to the vaccine. I was fit and healthy, no smoking, no drinking, no drugs, and exercising regularly with no family history. I never had symptoms but maybe at some point I caught covid without knowing despite going out…

That's terrible, I hope you're recovering to the best possible. Do you happen to know what was your blood pressure prior to the heart attack, and/or your apob level? At least you should have it checked now (I assume that's what have been prescribe by your doctors). It is my understanding that it is more statistically sound to point the cause of a heart attack at your age to genetic/epigenetic factors instead of a pot…

Thank you, I recovered well and am now able to walk more than one hour each day. I don't know what my pressure was prior to heart attack but now it's kept on the lower side by medications (115/60)

Re: Heart-disease risk soars after Covid, even with a mild case

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Post by rd_police »

chiefalchemist wrote: post #358
edmcnulty101 wrote: post #341

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A year later means it's probably permanent. I don't think there's any tissue that takes longer than a year to regenerate.

Reference link, please.

No post body was provided.

Re: Heart-disease risk soars after Covid, even with a mild case

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Post by raxxorrax »

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I think this should be researched further. There are countries that are more or less unvaccinated and can serve as a control group. Without that you simply cannot answer the question.

You don’t need, and in fact lose validity, using entire countries as control groups

Obviously, but you need people to be not vaccinated. But it still is the only way to sensibly differentiate effects of Covid and the vaccine itself if the spike protein causes damage.

I don't believe that we empirically know the positives either and it is the only way to reliably test. There is no alternative to this and it should have been done before any mandates came up in my opinion.

Re: Heart-disease risk soars after Covid, even with a mild case

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Post by greatquux »

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I’m Danish, like everyone of my fellows I had my 3 shots and a case of Omniwhatever. I’m 39 and in relatively decent shape, I can run 5km in 25 minutes and I do 20-30 minute of semi-cardio every day as I walk an 3km steep incline going home from work. Post covid (two months now) I feel the burn so much faster. Completely anecdotal but it had my doctor worried enough that she send me to an EKG and for blood testing (w…

I had COVID and even exercised with it. I noticed a higher level of muscle soreness, and in fact that and anosmia tipped us off to what was happening. This was one of the early variants where flu like symptoms were rare. In my N=1, any one of the myriad other common colds that I've had caused similar symptoms. The degree of muscle soreness was strange. Along with another person in my bubble who also got infected, we…

Probably what we need to do is figure out what COVID has in common with the other viral infections (esp. how they affect the body long term, which wasn't a huge thing people were talking about or researching pre-COVID), and then we from there we can figure out what is unique about this virus (and its variants).

Re: Heart-disease risk soars after Covid, even with a mild case

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Post by fer »

ekianjo wrote: post #70
fer wrote: post #13

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Who is this person/organisation that made every authority agree with each other for the first time in history?

When the FDA does something it influences regulatory bodies around the world, in case you have not heard.

I think you overestimate the influence of the FDA around the world.

To point an example, the FDA approved oxycodone for oral administration (and trusted patients with the dosage of a strong opioid). Meanwhile in most European countries it's rarely prescribed, and often only given IV/IM form (i.e. in the hospital).

Anecdotally, a typical post in "Expat in XXX" groups on FB involves Americans shocked that their medicine isn't approved abroad, and looking for alternatives.

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Post by colechristensen »

mschuster91 wrote: post #301
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It can be both. It's already known that vaccines increase rates of Myocarditis, especially amongst young males. It seems to be that the spike protein is responsible for this, which is present in both the virus and the vaccine.

> It's already known that vaccines increase rates of Myocarditis, especially amongst young males. An Israeli study showed an incidence rate of 2.13 cases/100k people [1] - the common incidence rate for myocarditis in the US is ~22/100k [2]. COVID-19 itself has a 146/100k incidence of myocarditis, in contrast [3]. So please, stop spreading that "vaccines increase the rate of myocarditis", there is no evidence that sup…

I personally know a young man without health complications who developed significant lasting cardiac symptoms strongly correlated with each dose of vaccine who has struggled so far to get a diagnosis after months, quite doubtful he even ended up one of those statistics.

Please stop trying to silence people because you don’t want what they suggest to be true.

I am not at all an anti vaccine person but after I had some inflammation in one of my eyes hours after my second dose, I won’t be getting any more without significant evidence addressing safety concerns.

I am also not a statistic because I did not make an appointment with an ophthalmologist, I didn’t feel like waiting weeks or paying thousands of dollars unless my symptoms persisted (they didn’t).

It is not that implausible that the vaccine is triggering autoimmune damage to some organs, often at initially subclinical extents. It is also not implausible that vaccine morality is making researchers and doctors overly conservative about researching and sharing information about this.

Re: Heart-disease risk soars after Covid, even with a mild case

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Post by MauranKilom »

Thorentis wrote: post #247
MauranKilom wrote: post #222

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Isn't it the opposite? If there's a strong effect in "had COVID" vs "probably did not have COVID", doesn't that prove that there would be an even stronger effect in "had COVID" vs "definitely did not have COVID"?

But where did "probably did not get" come from? It is highly likely that COVID numbers are far higher than we know about due to many mild and asymptomatic cases that go undetected.

That makes the case even stronger. Not sure where you're going with this. Unless you want to imply that everyone has had COVID already, the argument works the same.

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Post by Alex3917 »

raxxorrax wrote: post #404
oneoff786 wrote: post #393

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You don’t need, and in fact lose validity, using entire countries as control groups

Obviously, but you need people to be not vaccinated. But it still is the only way to sensibly differentiate effects of Covid and the vaccine itself if the spike protein causes damage. I don't believe that we empirically know the positives either and it is the only way to reliably test. There is no alternative to this and it should have been done before any mandates came up in my opinion.

> I don't believe that we empirically know the positives either and it is the only way to reliably test.

There are already studies comparing the mortality risk of those who got the vaccines against those who didn't, among only people who didn't get COVID. If you're worried about the vaccines, just take them 8 weeks apart instead of 3, and/or take an ACE inhibitor first to up-regulate your ACE2 receptors.

Re: Heart-disease risk soars after Covid, even with a mild case

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Post by DwarvenAcademy »

bpizzi wrote: post #330
verisimi wrote: post #191

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"It is my understanding that it is more statistically sound to point the cause of a heart attack at your age to genetic/epigenetic factors instead of a potential coronavirus infection with no symptoms." He's saying that he has an effect 2 months after the vaccine. Is that not also worthy of consideration, or do you include it as an epigenetic factor?

> or do you include it as an epigenetic factor? Well, in my mind `epigenetic = biological age * food intake`, where `food intake` is 'is he eating a consistent healthy diet, given that a typical person not eating healthy will surely says that she's eating healthy'. It's (unfortunately) enough to be >30yo, having bad genes around cholesterol handling pathways and eating a standard american diet (even without significa…

My cholesterol level are OK and I am Italian, so I surely don't follow an average American diet xD My gf and I love cooking and baking and all our food is freshly, with plenty of fruit and veggies, low salt in favour of spices, low sugar and plant based alternatives for butter and such :)

What's apob?

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