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Heart-disease risk soars after Covid, even with a mild case

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Re: Heart-disease risk soars after Covid, even with a mild case

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Post by tux1968 »

abc_lisper wrote: post #51
tux1968 wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's the point. You're still going to get Covid, so the question is, does having the vaccine reduce the prevalence of myocarditis in Covid patients? If it's the same as in the unvaccinated population, then (ignoring other actual benefits for a moment) taking the vaccine may actually increase your risk of myocarditis, since there is the risk with the vaccine itself, plus the risk once you get Covid.

Yeah, taking the vaccination reduces the chance of myocarditis. https://theconversation.com/myocarditis-covid-19-is-a-much-b...

I don't see anywhere in that article where it states that myocarditis is less prevalent in patients who subsequently get Covid. Would you mind quoting the relevant bit?

Re: Heart-disease risk soars after Covid, even with a mild case

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Post by tessierashpool »

wesleywt wrote: post #16
isolli wrote: post #8

What I would like to know is, for young males (i.e. those who are most at risk of myocarditis after the vaccine), does the vaccine lessen cardiac risks in a subsequent infection or not?

The rate of myocarditis is much higher if you get Covid than if you get the vaccine . So indirectly getting vaccine will lower your risk since of heart disease as everyone will eventually get covid.

yup. the post you're replying to is wild, dangerous bullshit.

Re: Heart-disease risk soars after Covid, even with a mild case

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Post by kqr »

donquichotte wrote: post #15
isolli wrote: post #8

What I would like to know is, for young males (i.e. those who are most at risk of myocarditis after the vaccine), does the vaccine lessen cardiac risks in a subsequent infection or not?

We got rid of the control group, I wonder if that was smart.

It's not a control if it's self-selected.

Re: Heart-disease risk soars after Covid, even with a mild case

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Post by ekianjo »

legerdemain wrote: post #14
ekianjo wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> How many have had instances of heart failure? Who knows when every authority seems to have a vested interest in promoting vaccines no matter what.

Oh, I just love seeing this rhetorical tag-team action on HN! PERSON 1: Grotesque unsubstantiated claim! PERSON 2: Uh... could you try to substantiate that? PERSON 3: Like they'd ever leave any evidence behind!

Oh so authorities in most countries are NOT pushing for vaccines no matter what? Please provide me some context that I am missing, it seems like we are not living in the same world or something.

Re: Heart-disease risk soars after Covid, even with a mild case

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Post by cesnja »

AlishaOwen wrote: post #49

This is interesting to contrast with the numerous studies mentioned here: https://www.statnews.com/2021/05/14/setting-the-record-strai...

Given this article was written almost a year ago, should we consider it a bit too old for dismissing newer discoveries?

Re: Heart-disease risk soars after Covid, even with a mild case

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Post by hedora »

qwertox wrote: post #46
f6v wrote: post #29

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> Heart Problems After Covid Are Much Worse for the Vaccinated, Nature Study Shows It might as well be that those who are vaccinated and still get sick are just predisposed to heart complications. Saying they get those because they were vaccinated is a fallacy.

Didn't even request his "findings" to be peer reviewed. Or ask the authors to clarify his questions. Just assumes some stuff and hits it out with a catchy headline.

Yeah. The “analysis” hurt my head. There’s lots of extrapolation from a table in someone else’s supplementary results. Maybe there were flaws in the original paper’s statistics (didn’t read it), but that doesn’t imply some implausible and tangentially related theory is correct.

Re: Heart-disease risk soars after Covid, even with a mild case

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Post by lampe3 »

AlishaOwen wrote: post #49

This is interesting to contrast with the numerous studies mentioned here: https://www.statnews.com/2021/05/14/setting-the-record-strai...

This is how Science work old studies and new studies can come to contrast conclusion. Why? Because of time, better understanding, more data and many more facts. So yeah we will probably see more long covid problems in the next 2 years.

Re: Heart-disease risk soars after Covid, even with a mild case

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Post by meheleventyone »

abc_lisper wrote: post #54
TranquilMarmot wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also could be a coincidence... lots of factors go into whether or not you have a heart attack.

Anecdotal anxiety ;) I guess

This is the worst conclusion to jump to by the way. I had a heart attack last year at 39 with no larger cause that could be established. No chronic heart disease, exercised regularly, no family history and so on. It’s just one of those things that can happen. I then went on to get vaccinated, have COVID and get a booster all without issue.

Re: Heart-disease risk soars after Covid, even with a mild case

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Post by petesergeant »

theteapot wrote: post #52
hedora wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The article says that the vaccine greatly reduces the rate of heart disease amongst people that eventually get covid. Essentially everyone that survives the next couple of years will catch covid.

> The article says that the vaccine greatly reduces the rate of heart disease amongst people that eventually get covid. It does?? Where does it say this?

> Because severe disease increased the risk of complications much more than mild disease, Ardehali wrote, “it is important that those who are not vaccinated get their vaccine immediately”.
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