TikTok shares your data more than any other app and it’s unclear where it goes

Post by tekknik » Thu, Feb 10, 2022, 4:59 AM UTC

beepbooptheory wrote: post #309

friedman23 wrote: post #291

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You are assuming that the platform would not exist if the company didn't create it. But if tiktok doesn't exist the discussion would just happen somewhere else. I should also say that I'm not suggesting that tiktok was created for the sole purpose of pushing propaganda from its inception.

Well then I guess there is nothing left to say, as there is absolutely nothing that can be falsified in your beliefs, only the single-minded faith in an absolute national enemy. I only wish y'all could hear yourselves when you say these things, with even a fraction more rational clarity, even an ounce more suspicion of the political narratives at work here. These conversations are deeply troubling to me, makes me abs…

Post by tekknik » Thu, Feb 10, 2022, 5:02 AM UTC

ammo1662 wrote: post #342

friedman23 wrote: post #278

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Like I said in another comment, I'll allow HN readers to use their own judgement. edit: but you know what. Since you want evidence I'll give you some. The entire Alibaba debacle where the CEO was forced into hiding because he dared to contradict the Chinese political elite is my evidence that the Chinese government has implicit control over every business based out of China.

Evidence? If I did not use their services and had some friends work at Alibaba, I would trust you.

Post by mushbino » Thu, Feb 10, 2022, 5:33 AM UTC

robbedpeter wrote: post #5

It's not unclear at all. It's Chinese data harvesting software. They'll do token public appeasement to avoid negative pressure, but every feature in the app is designed to collect biometrics and behavioral data. China is not a good faith operator. Given the data needed to influence public opinion and voting, they will engage in manipulation favorable to their interests. That alone is sufficient to run tiktok at a los…

Post by consumer451 » Thu, Feb 10, 2022, 11:15 AM UTC

cgriswald wrote: post #204

consumer451 wrote: post #163

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My one nitpick is that I believe it would be best to replace "China" with "CCP" in your statement. It's important to be specific in cases like these. I think it likely that it is not geographical China, nor all Chinese people you are attempting to reference, but their leadership the CCP.

That’s not a nitpick. That’s redefining the way we talk about nations. It’s already clear from context he’s not talking about “all Chinese people.” “China to enter talks with the United States about social media” would not mean all Chinese people will talk to all Americans. This is true whether the content is positive, negative, or neutral.

Post by fsflover » Thu, Feb 10, 2022, 1:02 PM UTC

ammo1662 wrote: post #342

friedman23 wrote: post #278

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Like I said in another comment, I'll allow HN readers to use their own judgement. edit: but you know what. Since you want evidence I'll give you some. The entire Alibaba debacle where the CEO was forced into hiding because he dared to contradict the Chinese political elite is my evidence that the Chinese government has implicit control over every business based out of China.

Evidence? If I did not use their services and had some friends work at Alibaba, I would trust you.