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TikTok shares your data more than any other app and it’s unclear where it goes

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Re: TikTok shares your data more than any other app and it’s unclear where it goes

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Post by friedman23 »

cvlasdkv wrote: post #259
friedman23 wrote: post #234

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Explicit evidence of Tiktok sharing information with the Chinese government is not needed because there is already sufficient evidence that 1. The Chinese government does not deserve our trust. 2. All Chinese businesses are extensions of the Chinese government. The default assumption should be that your information is being sent to China and that China is using Tiktok as an extention of their propaganda arm.

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> You claim there is "sufficient evidence" yet provide none

Do I need to provide evidence that the Chinese government should not be trusted and that China has control over all businesses based within its borders? This is common knowledge.

> I'm less worried than if it were used by American companies to target me specifically for ads

You should try practicing what you preach regarding so called xenophobia. Also your defensiveness in this regard is misplaced because my post is not pro American ad companies and it is not pro data collection. I am anti data collection. So not only am I against tiktok because it's controlled by a genocidal dictatorship that has raised a legion of indoctrinated nationalists, I'm anti tiktok because it represents the absolute worst of social media.

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Post by cvlasdkv »

xinniethepooh wrote: post #200
Ekaros wrote: post #90

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No, but they intelligence agencies do the same stuff. And private hidden funders of politicians do the astroturfing... I don't really see much difference if it done by government or people who pay the politicians running the government.

Politicians are voted in by the people, and giving money to politicians to advance an initiative isn't guaranteed. You don't really see much difference? Democratically elected politicians versus central party that allows no dissent and has complete control over information and actions of its citizens to the point of genocidal assimilation.

> Democratically elected politicians versus central party that allows no dissent and has complete control over information and actions of its citizens to the point of genocidal assimilation.

You're saying the Chinese government is so powerful and competent that they have complete control over information and actions of over one BILLION people? Wild claims like this one should be substantiated.

Although your name is wildly sinophobic and racist so I doubt there is any evidence you can pull up.

Re: TikTok shares your data more than any other app and it’s unclear where it goes

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Post by yibg »

cortesoft wrote: post #131
yibg wrote: post #119

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I’d rather have a generally applicable law in place. If we think massive data collection shouldn’t be allowed then ban that.

How would you ban data collection happening in a foreign country?

You can’t. But you can ban apps that don’t comply to these laws. Similarly to how China band google and Facebook for not complying with their laws.

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Post by [deleted] »

rtsil wrote: post #232
Dma54rhs wrote: post #215

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I mean it's simply not true, ask any non-European person who has lived on both continents where he feels more welcome. On what social issues are excatly Euros more left wing compared to Americans?

Universal healthcare, unemployment benefits, workers' rights, LGBTQ rights, prison policy, police behavior and control, social safety net, lack of religion in politics, free or extremely cheap education including higher education, and that's just off the top if my mind? > ask any non-European person who has lived on both continents where he feels more welcome. I gladly concede this, but this is just one element of so…

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Post by Dma54rhs »

rtsil wrote: post #232
Dma54rhs wrote: post #215

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I mean it's simply not true, ask any non-European person who has lived on both continents where he feels more welcome. On what social issues are excatly Euros more left wing compared to Americans?

Universal healthcare, unemployment benefits, workers' rights, LGBTQ rights, prison policy, police behavior and control, social safety net, lack of religion in politics, free or extremely cheap education including higher education, and that's just off the top if my mind? > ask any non-European person who has lived on both continents where he feels more welcome. I gladly concede this, but this is just one element of so…

LGBT rights are definetly better off in America and then you listed a lot of economical issues that have very little to do with left or right in Europe. Matter of a fact in Eastern Europe the left wing economical policies are what is keeping socially Conservative people in power.

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Post by cvlasdkv »

friedman23 wrote: post #261
cvlasdkv wrote: post #259

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> You claim there is "sufficient evidence" yet provide none Do I need to provide evidence that the Chinese government should not be trusted and that China has control over all businesses based within its borders? This is common knowledge. > I'm less worried than if it were used by American companies to target me specifically for ads You should try practicing what you preach regarding so called xenophobia. Also your d…

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Re: TikTok shares your data more than any other app and it’s unclear where it goes

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Post by friedman23 »

cvlasdkv wrote: post #266
friedman23 wrote: post #261

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> You claim there is "sufficient evidence" yet provide none Do I need to provide evidence that the Chinese government should not be trusted and that China has control over all businesses based within its borders? This is common knowledge. > I'm less worried than if it were used by American companies to target me specifically for ads You should try practicing what you preach regarding so called xenophobia. Also your d…

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> Yes, because it's likely your "common knowledge" is a misunderstanding or misrepresentation of reality

Fine, you disagree with me, I'm not putting in any more effort discussing this with you because I don't believe you are arguing in good faith. I'll let the reader of HN decide using their own judgement.

> Ironically this is most of the world's opinion of America.

You keep up bringing up America despite me not mentioning them or even defending the country. This is a classic tactic for derailing conversations.

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Post by spinny »

boringg wrote: post #70
maxehmookau wrote: post #15

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I'm from the UK, so it's a relative concept. The US, except for some fairly small pockets of actual socialist left-wing thinking, is much further to the right. A lot of western europe loved Obama, but in reality he was closer to the UK Conservative party than the UK Labour party. But I'm even more curious, would you not describe Tucker Carlson as far right in his views?

Tucker Carlson is unhinged from reality and espouses wild conspiracies which falls squarely in the far right.

> wild conspiracies

which ones ?? russiagate hrc lies ??

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Post by StopDarkPattern »

ailef wrote: post #207
yua_mikami wrote: post #137

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All of this applies to Instagram, FB, etc... too? Also > How much are the CCP paying you to defend TikTok in all these comments? This is surely not the way to have a rational conversation about the topic?

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