There is no need to tell people how to behave 'on a cultural level'. It has nothing to do with anything other than some people trying to impose their beliefs on everyeone else.
The data are clear: The boys are not all right
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#342US-based cis-hetero white man here. The data reinforce the impression you get glancing at the headlines or spending a day out anywhere in America observing other men. Dare I say it even reinforces what I know from painful firsthand experience as a man, at the lowest points in my life. I was lucky though, with a supportive family who helped me through the confusing years of early adulthood. You can point to the declin…
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#343Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why is this an issue? Aren't good role models good role models regardless of gender/sex?
A woman simply cannot be a role model in all of the same ways as a man, and vice-versa. This belief that men and women are the same and contribute in exactly the same ways is a big part of the problem that this article discusses.
I agree that a woman can't be a role model in the same ways as a man, but I believe this is not necessarily a bad thing.
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#344I'm a white straight male, grew up middle class near Seattle. I'm now in my mid-30s and have 3 kids. Semi-recently I had an (maybe my first?) experience where I wasn't the favored party in a situation. My kids have made focus more difficult, and I work in an industry (tech consulting) where focus is a big deal, and the idea that I'm not the perfect person for the job was a foreign feeling. I no longer felt "I was mad…
Respectfully, this is kind of a privileged take, both economic and intellectual. For the majority of men who aren’t going to college, they’ve spent a lot longer than a couple of years feeling like they’re not “the favored party” in a situation.
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#345> As men’s unemployment rises, their romantic prospects decline. Conversely: as young men's potential future employability rises, their romantic prospects also decline. That is - the men who'll grow up to be stable and reliable have lonely teenage years.
Wouldn't that be nice? That sort of karma is not really guaranteed to exist. Chances are the ostracized lonely introvert will be worse off due to poor networking and if he finds any success at all it will be despite many disadvantages. Meanwhile, asshole bullies could very well go on to become their bosses because sociopathy is often found in powerful people.
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#346>>Median wages for men have declined since 1990 in real terms. Roughly one-third of men are either unemployed or out of the workforce. I wonder how much of this is because more women are joining the workforce. If men are leaving the workforce by their own free will because their wife is working and they are staying home with the kids, both of these facts could be true, but seems like a win in both gender equality ter…
> More U.S. men ages 18 to 34 are now living with their parents than with romantic partners. and > Research shows that one significant factor women look for in a partner is a steady job. As men’s unemployment rises, their romantic prospects decline. Unsurprisingly, according to a Pew Research Center analysis of data from 1960 to 2010, the proportion of adults without a college degree who marry plummeted from just ove…
There's a heap of complexity around this. Society needs to shift and work this out. Its only been around a century. The answers are not so simple.
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#347Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why is this an issue? Aren't good role models good role models regardless of gender/sex?
A woman simply cannot be a role model in all of the same ways as a man, and vice-versa. This belief that men and women are the same and contribute in exactly the same ways is a big part of the problem that this article discusses.
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#348> On a cultural level, we must stop defining masculinity as necessarily toxic and start promoting positive masculinity. There is no need to tell people how to behave 'on a cultural level'. It has nothing to do with anything other than some people trying to impose their beliefs on everyeone else.
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#349I pitty todays boys. The entire world from school to internet has something against being playfull, hyper active, agressively competitive, and all the other things that boys are by nature. One fight and here comes therapy and even meds. I would be crucified for what I did as a youth even though nobody got hurt and I turned out to be a top 1% productive member of society. Today being a docile beast of burden is the on…
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#350Earlier quoted context omitted.
There have been more women than men in college in the US since the 80s. It varies from college to college and from subject to subject (e.g. STEM is much more male, MIT more male, humanities-focused colleges more female). A graph from a random internet search result: https://educationalpolicy.org/hello-world/
There's a huge body of education research about this, this has been the case for of years. There's even data from the pre-1900s, especially in the primary school years. Only recently have we stripped away a lot of the sexism however, providing a successful transition to higher education. It all boils down to: Girls are more likely to do their damn homework when the teacher tells them. Therefore they out-perform in fo…