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TikTok shares your data more than any other app and it’s unclear where it goes

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Re: TikTok shares your data more than any other app and it’s unclear where it goes

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Post by robbedpeter »

maxehmookau wrote: post #11
lelandfe wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Google's been caught red handed deliberately manipulating political content Sorry, do you have a better link handy? This primarily looks like a fundraising page.

A really strange fundraising page too that claims to be non-partisan but quotes three different far-right hacks.

That's a coverage artifact - if Google is manipulating politics in favor of democrats, then the only coverage you'll find is going to be on the center to the right wing platforms. American media in all its glory.

Re: TikTok shares your data more than any other app and it’s unclear where it goes

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Post by legrande »

I refuse to download TikTok because I think we've reached peak social media and don't need another app that siphons off data and turns it into gold ingots. Besides, TikTok videos leak out into other platforms and you can tell by the little logo in the video that it was ripped from TikTok.

It's just Vine 2.0[1]. Many Vine videos got ripped and re-posted to YouTube so we have a small piece of internet culture surviving the death of an app and preserved.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vine_(service)

Re: TikTok shares your data more than any other app and it’s unclear where it goes

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Post by gs17 »

Etheryte wrote: post #36

One thing that I found very interesting when I looked into what TikTok does: it's scary good at aggregating data about you. I live in a foreign country, my phone's network is behind a VPN to a different foreign country and I gave the app no extra permissions, yet somehow I still got recommended content from the country where I was born. Since it's a small country there's no way that's a coincidence. I'm both intrigue…

Does your native country use a different language and you have something set to it on your phone? I had a Korean friend get freaked out by similar, but we figured out that he had something fingerprintable set to use Korean even though his interface was set to English.

Re: TikTok shares your data more than any other app and it’s unclear where it goes

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Post by snehk »

cm2012 wrote: post #24
robbedpeter wrote: post #5

It's not unclear at all. It's Chinese data harvesting software. They'll do token public appeasement to avoid negative pressure, but every feature in the app is designed to collect biometrics and behavioral data. China is not a good faith operator. Given the data needed to influence public opinion and voting, they will engage in manipulation favorable to their interests. That alone is sufficient to run tiktok at a los…

TikTok should be banned in the US. China banned all of our homegrown social networks, its pretty standard international precedent to ban theirs, given the security risks.

China didn't specifically "ban" US social networks because they were US social networks. The companies themselves didn't want to comply with Chinese laws so they cannot operate there.

It's the same as Facebook now threatening to leave the EU if they have to comply with EU data protection laws.

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Post by duxup »

sydthrowaway wrote: post #27

The conversation here on HN is quite funny. I can imagine the same conversation taking place in China: the data on US apps goes straight to the US government.

It's pretty common for everyone to assume such things... particularly if you're doing it.

I recall when Trump ran into issues with contacts made with some Russian agents he publicly stated that he thought everyone else did it (to be specific he meant sending someone to meet with agents who said they had information he would want). When in fact almost every recent presidential candidate had reported attempted contacts by Russian agents (the lone exceptions were Trump, and George Bush Sr... but Bush had been head of the CIA so it seems likely the Russians might not try).

It seems it makes it easy to imagine these things by default if you're up to it.

Re: TikTok shares your data more than any other app and it’s unclear where it goes

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Post by Karunamon »

voxl wrote: post #46
cm2012 wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

TikTok should be banned in the US. China banned all of our homegrown social networks, its pretty standard international precedent to ban theirs, given the security risks.

No thanks, don't need any more authoritarian moves from presidential over reach. Privacy laws for companies making X$ in yearly revenue is much saner approach.

Countries deciding that foreigners can't use their citizen's data willy-nilly is neither authoritarian nor over-reach, and neither is restricting those foreigners from access when they don't comply.

For a generally accepted instance, see the EU GDPR.

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Post by toqy »

Etheryte wrote: post #36

One thing that I found very interesting when I looked into what TikTok does: it's scary good at aggregating data about you. I live in a foreign country, my phone's network is behind a VPN to a different foreign country and I gave the app no extra permissions, yet somehow I still got recommended content from the country where I was born. Since it's a small country there's no way that's a coincidence. I'm both intrigue…

I'd probably be more worried about a flaw in your own setup vs TikTok uniquely being able to circumvent it

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Post by HWR_14 »

Day1 wrote: post #18
guelo wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Facebook has generated so much well-earned hate that even the most nationalistic Americans aren't going to come to its defense.

An odd contrast considering non-nationalistic Americans are usually the first to defend Big Business and Big Government.

I think you are each using nationalist a different way. I'm pretty sure the GP meant it as "buy American" nationalists and you meant it as "I want an ethnostate" nationalists.

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Post by duxup »

twofornone wrote: post #42
duxup wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They banned tik tok ?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump%E2%80%93TikTok_... Trump admin tried to restrict its use, at least among government/military, and perhaps predictably he was accused of racism/sinophobia...but the threat was just as real then as now.

That doesn't really seem like "tried that" to me.
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