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Join a gym with a spin class 25-50/mo. Tops. 20-40 per class is robbery.
Right, but that just makes Peloton even more attractive because now I don't even have to go to a gym, and I can take classes anytime I want in the comfort of my own home on my own schedule.
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Unfortunately there are not good alternatives. I have a fairly nice bike at home and a standing desk that I can fit it under comfortably. I told my partner we don't need a Peloton because I could find spin class videos online. Nope. There really isnt any quality content out there. I guess I could just sign up for the Peloton platform with my own bike but I was surprised there wasnt at least a handful of Youtube video…
You do not need spin class videos. There is nothing technical about stationary biking. Yoga ? Sure, poses might be tricky to understand. Calisthenics ? Same thing. But a stationary bike ? Pump the difficulty on a timer and play some loud music on your own. Congratulations on your very own spin class.
These people always burn out once the gimmick wears off. Then they go searching for the next thing and the next.
Throwing money hand over fist bc they cant figure out to eat better and put the proverbial foot to the concrete.
I'm sure they were all convinced their apple watch was going to keep them on track. These are the people who ran out and bought those stupid finger-toe running "shoes". They thought the Wii Fit Board was going to revolutionize things.
These are people who have perfectly matching and stylish gym outfits. they buy endless supplements to enhance performance or weight loss.
Just go do some hiit. Lift some weights. Take a yoga class. Quit eating like a jackass.
Nutrition and fitness can be complicated but beginner to intermediate changes aren't. 90% of people have an effort and habit problem.
And the western world thinks in consumerism terms. That fitness is something you buy at the store and name drop the brand to your friends.
And it's why they'll yo-yo their efforts all their lives before just giving up entirely
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You do not need spin class videos. There is nothing technical about stationary biking. Yoga ? Sure, poses might be tricky to understand. Calisthenics ? Same thing. But a stationary bike ? Pump the difficulty on a timer and play some loud music on your own. Congratulations on your very own spin class.
These are people who need to consume and "belong" their way to fitness. These people always burn out once the gimmick wears off. Then they go searching for the next thing and the next. Throwing money hand over fist bc they cant figure out to eat better and put the proverbial foot to the concrete. I'm sure they were all convinced their apple watch was going to keep them on track. These are the people who ran out and b…
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These are people who need to consume and "belong" their way to fitness. These people always burn out once the gimmick wears off. Then they go searching for the next thing and the next. Throwing money hand over fist bc they cant figure out to eat better and put the proverbial foot to the concrete. I'm sure they were all convinced their apple watch was going to keep them on track. These are the people who ran out and b…
In all fairness, the wii fit board is fun. In the same way as ring fit is. I absolutely understand wanting to gamify your exercise: it's fun and always nice to see that you've put in 2500 planks since you've started. But even these are a one time payment. As you said, paying 40 dollars for HIIT is unbelievably either uninformed or lazy.
Trainers and peloton classes and such give people the option to rent someone else's willpower, though. (plus leverage sunk-cost sentiments and other tricks)
It's probably part of why fitness levels go up and waistlines down as one's gaze travels up the SES ladder. Someone with money who kinda wants to get fit can pay someone else to do their giving-a-shit for them, and might get fit. Someone without money who kinda wants to get fit—won't. That's what you'd expect to see even with all else, including the distribution of willpower (however we measure that) among various social classes and income levels, being equal.
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Zoom is most definitely here to stay. I am confident that remote work culture will continue to be a part of normal working culture going forward. There's too many advantages for both labor and businesses to keep remote work alive.
Is Zoom here to stay or is video conferencing here to stay? Google Meets and MS Teams are pretty good and built into their respective Office suite products.
The $40 subscription is the killer not enabling them to expand to mass market beyond the cult following. Not everyone needs a spin-class type contents and some just want to stream Netflix / HBO or just hear some good beats. If they need to expand their market beyond cult following, then they need to sell no-subscription options and focus on making the margin when selling the equipment.
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No, it's ridiculously overpriced for the equipment and content. Buy a real bike and go outside. It's way more interesting and better for you. If you HAVE to stay inside for bad weather or something get a trainer for that bike. There are several youtube channels/patreon channels that film their mountain-biking/road biking and you can put those on and feel like you're riding along if you need that aspect. I feel like t…
"Do something else!" is not much of an argument. It really just points out that you're unaware of the distinction between what Peloton sells and cycling in general. Spin classes have their appeal and benefits that aren't the same as regular riding. A spin class is (typically) a high-intensity activity done for a fairly short period of time (say, an hour). An hour spent outside on your bike does not impart the same be…
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No, it's ridiculously overpriced for the equipment and content. Buy a real bike and go outside. It's way more interesting and better for you. If you HAVE to stay inside for bad weather or something get a trainer for that bike. There are several youtube channels/patreon channels that film their mountain-biking/road biking and you can put those on and feel like you're riding along if you need that aspect. I feel like t…
I have had my Peloton for a year now. I use it every day. It has transformed my health and my relationship w fitness. When I am on vacation I do Peloton audio based outdoor runs to keep my Peloton workout streak alive.
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No, it's ridiculously overpriced for the equipment and content. Buy a real bike and go outside. It's way more interesting and better for you. If you HAVE to stay inside for bad weather or something get a trainer for that bike. There are several youtube channels/patreon channels that film their mountain-biking/road biking and you can put those on and feel like you're riding along if you need that aspect. I feel like t…
I keep seeing this argument, from presumably 20-40something single men. I ride outside a lot and indoors too. 1. trainers don't work if you have 7+ bikes in a household with differing drivetrains, even the ones that attach at the wheel. 2. watching people ride and sitting on a trainer is kind of boring 3. peloton content is pretty engaging (maybe not for you) 4. the subscription cost is not an impact to finances
"trainers don't work if you have 7+ bikes in a household with differing drivetrains, even the ones that attach at the wheel"
They absolutely DO work, even then. Wheel-off smart trainers (Wahoo KICKR Snap, e.g.) don't care what your drive train is. We can put every bike we own on ours, and that includes bikes with 9-speed, 10-speed, and 11-speed drivetrains.
If you opt for a wheel-off trainer, sure, you'd probably need to ensure chain/cassette compatibility, but then you're clearly making a tradeoff for a superior "feel" and better power calibration -- in other words, you're probably racing and have no interest in keeping your 9-speed bike on a trainer when you race on 11. ;)
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Zwift has done well with a fitness gaming product oriented around bike races and challenges. But the graphics are cheesy. And the whole game experience is mostly just about power output in a straight line with maybe some drafting tactics; it only even supports steering in a very limited way.
As a runner, I just do…not…get Zwift. I could see using it, maybe, on a bike (though, as parent points out, the bike version isn’t exactly all that). But running, it’s just watching a cartoon avatar run down the road while getting passed by bicycles. I well and fully admit that I could be missing the key element that makes Zwift a draw, but as I see it I’d do just as well to stare at the numbers on the treadmill’s LC…
That said: I totally understand their desire to expand into running, but Zwift as an idea just seems so disconnected from the culture and practice of running that I'm not surprised it's not landing super well with at least some runners. Zwift is a cycling platform first, and it shows.