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Re: Peloton replaces CEO and lays off 2,800 people

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My partner might as well have joined a cult with how obsessed she is with not just the peloton but the culture of the peloton class. That being said, she argues she’s never felt healthier in her entire life and so I can’t complain if she’s happy!

I've heard the same thing about "Peloton Culture" elsewhere, but not a good explanation of what that culture is. Can a HN Peloton user elaborate?

I don't personally get it as I'm too cynical, but my partner says it's a very positive and encouraging culture. It's also gamed very well to encourage DAU so someone like my partner who loves getting her "dots" is incentivized to keep participating every day.

I reiterate though, it's working well for her health journey, so I'm all for it.

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I sure hope Zoom goes away; they way they've repeatedly lied about behavior and security just ASTONISHES me, especially since they've experienced zero backlash. They've got CIOs utterly snowed, which is honestly a huge indictment of CIOs, including and especially those in "government" roles.

Perhaps I'm misremembering, but wasn't there actually quite significant backlash towards their security flaws in the early days, causing them to rectify the problems?

Just last night I noticed that the zoom program on my mac has been suffering from this bug, which is ~4 months old. Both are up to date.

https://community.zoom.com/t5/Meetings/Why-is-the-Zoom-app-l...

Re: Peloton replaces CEO and lays off 2,800 people

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Take HN's hive mind tech bro culture, and apply it to overpriced classes that are basically a youtube video.

Unfortunately there are not good alternatives. I have a fairly nice bike at home and a standing desk that I can fit it under comfortably. I told my partner we don't need a Peloton because I could find spin class videos online. Nope. There really isnt any quality content out there. I guess I could just sign up for the Peloton platform with my own bike but I was surprised there wasnt at least a handful of Youtube video…

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Re: Peloton replaces CEO and lays off 2,800 people

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Every time I see I have a meeting with MS Teams, I get annoyed. - Most of the time, people don't setup a dialin number, so I can't use my phone - There's no way to display both the attendees list and the chat at the same time Those are two examples of things that just cause it to be an "also ran" in my mind. It's just missing a lot of the "nice to have" features; much the way Zoom did when it was first release... it…

Second this. The Teams application rarely works on my vanilla setup (MBP, latest OS). And every time you run it, it reinserts itself into your Login Items — even if you've previously removed it. This is malware behavior, plain and simple.

WebEx used to do this and thankfully stopped. I would never quit WebEx. I'd just press Cmd-Opt-Esc to bring up the list of running processes and force quit it to avoid it both reinserting itself into my login items and also to prevent it from running the WebEx listener app. Like dude, I'm quitting this app. Why do you think I want to run the app again? WTF? Like I say, they've stopped doing that, but wow, what a shitty thing to have done in the first place.

Re: Peloton replaces CEO and lays off 2,800 people

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> Zoom is most definitely here to stay. I am confident that remote work culture will continue to be a part of normal working culture going forward. I'm with you on the second statement. I don't see the first immutably flowing from it. Zoom is dominant, but switching costs are small and their competitors are well capitalized and eagerly assaulting its fortress. Add to that their geopolitical vulnerability and their lo…

Zoom is here to stay ≠ Zoom is poised to remain the leader indefinitely. But I don't see why Zoom would lose so much market share or revenue streams as to disappear or become a marginal player. Something extraordinary should happen for it to cease to be here to stay.

Skype used to be the only name in video calling.

It wasn't anything extraordinary that made skype lose market share - just a gradual slide into irrelevance as competing products got stronger, and they tried to make a profit when everyone else was giving away the product for free.

Re: Peloton replaces CEO and lays off 2,800 people

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Zoom is most definitely here to stay. I am confident that remote work culture will continue to be a part of normal working culture going forward. There's too many advantages for both labor and businesses to keep remote work alive.

Is Zoom here to stay or is video conferencing here to stay? Google Meets and MS Teams are pretty good and built into their respective Office suite products.

> [..] and MS Teams are pretty good [..]

I will never work for any company that uses Teams as their internal communication tool again.

I'm done talking about "admins who set up groups wrong", or indicators that I'm holding it wrong...

I feel very strongly that Teams is a consequence of a company that doesn't care what it inflicts on workers, regardless of price.

The way teams shoves itself down my throat (we do not use teams at my current company and it was one of the reasons I moved here) is astonishing too[0].

So, no, Teams is not "pretty good".

[0]: https://blog.dijit.sh/teams-microsoft-monopoly

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Low friction web rtc based tools like streamyard and jitsi meet will probably become more popular than “native” apps like zoom and teams which tend to get slower and just generally worse as they are updated especially with large corporates driving the feature bloat.

Haven't heard about stream yard. Thanks for the reference!

I had to collaborate with something the other day and was not looking forward to signing up to yet another service. However, I was pleasantly surprised that this worked so well and with no sign in.

Re: Peloton replaces CEO and lays off 2,800 people

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post #50

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Is Zoom here to stay or is video conferencing here to stay? Google Meets and MS Teams are pretty good and built into their respective Office suite products.

Low friction web rtc based tools like streamyard and jitsi meet will probably become more popular than “native” apps like zoom and teams which tend to get slower and just generally worse as they are updated especially with large corporates driving the feature bloat.

Web-based tools are stuck on whatever the currently supported standards are and depend on all browsers implementing them the same. It's much easier for a company to simply ship their own code on their own apps and control the entire stack, which is why Zoom was so much better than every other alternative when it came out. I think people forget just how crappy teleconferencing was before Zoom. I used to work for a competitor, and we didn't like using our own product!

Re: Peloton replaces CEO and lays off 2,800 people

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Is it just me or is $40 a month too much for the content they provide? I would spend a couple thousand on fancy exercise equipment, or maybe get one as a gift for my parents but the required subscription gives me rent seeking vibes.

Peloton subscriber here. £40/month is worth it. The quality of the classes is impeccable. It's like they've been produced with TV budgets! This price does also include the digital membership which has yoga, boxing and loads of other type of workouts. The bike (Bike+) is expensive but it's a solid piece of kit and does come with a 24 inch (Android) tablet. Edit: Forgot to say, the £40/month is per bike, not per member…

As someone who occasionally ride's my partner's peloton, I am BEGGING them to just let me watch Netflix or something on the screen. I have to jimmyrig an iPad over the huge screen because they won't let me just use the screen how I want.
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