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Re: You can change your number

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Signal doesn't advertise a profile. It advertises a phone number - everything else is data you have locally. It will send a profile picture if you set one but that's it.

Does it advertise your username? If I don't have the name of the contact, will Signal share my username or does it just say "this number in your list has joined signal, and here is their profile?"

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You could just check for yourself if it's important. I do.

This is bad design. Why excuse bad design? When I send a text message and it doesn't arrive, my messaging app lets me know. With Signal, this is a step backward.

I meant I check in Signal. It does indicate whether it's received or not and whether it's read or not.

Re: You can change your number

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You could just check for yourself if it's important. I do.

This is bad design. Why excuse bad design? When I send a text message and it doesn't arrive, my messaging app lets me know. With Signal, this is a step backward.

You only know if your SMS fails to send, not if the receiving party has deleted their messaging app, broken their phone, or changed number.

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Applications can't determine when they're uninstalled. Or, not reliably anyway, and not while following platform guidelines. So the question becomes how to tell uninstalled vs left in a drawer, powered down, while on vacation.

They can determine when did the user logged in last. Signal already tracks this.

That sounds like it would have privacy concerns. I don't want everyone to know when I last was on my phone.

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You could just check for yourself if it's important. I do.

There are multiple anecdotes in this thread, on HN , that people missed that. All GP is asking for is better UX making it more obvious, because being able to check is something other than knowing to check and how to check.

It's the exact same UX as SMS, Telegram, WhatsApp Facebook and (partially) Twitter...

Re: You can change your number

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They only started sending your contact graph after adopting SGX. Before that the matching used to happen client side through a bloom filter. They can theoretically rebuild a contact graph by finding everyone you’re talking to, but that’s a small subset of the contact graph created by contact matching. The code is open source and SGX literally means that the client attests that the code on the server matches what it’s…

I trust bloom filters more than SGX. I assume they stopped using bloom filters because of performance or reliability reasons? Also, aren't most mobile processors not Intel? How would SGX be used?

Here you go: https://signal.org/blog/private-contact-discovery/

Re: You can change your number

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It feels like the policy doesn't make sense because people only notice the cases they don't like. The cases where it works just fine, which are the vast majority, go unnoticed. That's by design, because it keeps things relatively smooth and happy, but it has this weird side effect that the annoyance cases build up like mercury in the 'policy' corner of the brain. Worst yet, the title edits that would annoy people if…

(I don't mind if you ignore this and I don't mind if you hide this or whatever. But I have thought about this specific issue in the context of this site quite a bit for almost a full decade now, and I feel like I have something interesting to contribute to your thought process given your response.) FWIW, I think this is an unfair characterization of my complaint. Yes: I can and would (and once in a blue moon even do…

Thanks for writing this! I don't think we're as far apart as it seems. For example, in cases like this, we often bend the rules, very much for the reasons you mention:

If you primarily publish changelogs or summary pieces (both of which can get a lot of play on Hacker News... but only for one subsection, not the whole article), publish to mailing lists or forums (where the titles are often under someone else's control or abnormal to use at all; we see a lot of great content these days on Twitter, and I would use it more often were it not for Hacker News and its title policy), or even technical articles on smaller blogs designed for closed audiences that would find a title for a "general" audience off-putting, you become permanently trapped in what to you is a disregarded corner case.

We're trying for a global optimization here—interesting content, free of sensationalism to the extent possible. We're not bureaucrats trying to enforce little rules. Always the intent is to be a spirit-of-the-law place, not a letter-of-the-law place [1]. If you've got content that you feel is great for HN but whose title doesn't fit the cookie cutter, you're always welcome to email us at hn@ycombinator.com. Our goal is also for HN to feature the best content, where 'best' means most interesting to the community. (Of course, there's also often a tension between what an author feels is great content vs. what the community (or moderators as a proxy for the community) feel is great content. That aspect is unavoidable, given how scarce frontpage space is.)

It's true that baity titles work better for attracting enough quick upvotes to make HN's front page, but then one of two things typically happens: either readers (who there are far more of) see the bait, go "WTF is this doing on HN" and flag the submission; or, moderators notice the submission, see that the article is good, and replace the title with something more accurate and neutral. That's not such a bad thing in practice. Some good content does surface that way.

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