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Re: Apple in 2021

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Post by gnicholas »

wwarek wrote: post #50
gnicholas wrote: post #16

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> I don't want any other feature except a battery that can make it a full day. I thought the Series 7 could make it a full day? My wife has a S6 and makes it about 36 hours with her normal usage (which is admittedly quite light). For me, it's not a watch if it has to be charged every day or two. I need 4+ days of battery life so that I don't have to bring another charger on every overnight/weekend trip.

My Mi Band 6 from Xiaomi easily lives ~30 days on one charge if used less (eg. no constant heart tracking, no PAI) and ~7 days with all tracking enabled (sleep, oxygen, heart rate, 1-2 workouts a day). With a third party app instead of Xiaomi "Mi Fit", I belive also all the data stays with me. That makes me wonder - what does Apple Watch do that Mi Band doesn't that makes the time on battery so much different? I gues…

Reading reviews on Amazon, it makes it sound like it's not the best on privacy. Do you experience this?

> If you don’t agree to let them sell your information, then every single time you connect your watch to the phone, it automatically transfers you to settings on your phone because it wants you to alter them so they can sell your information.

Re: Apple in 2021

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Post by mandeepj »

jhickok wrote: post #6

I love the new Apple Silicon Macs, and the transition for me has been pretty easy. I can't imagine anything interesting happening to the watch that doesn't include a big increase to battery life. I don't want any other feature except a battery that can make it a full day. Apple software has seemingly regressed every year recently. Native apps like Music and Podcasts, the only two I would regularly use, have become so…

> I don't want any other feature except a battery that can make it a full day.

I'm waiting for them to add glucose monitoring into it

Re: Apple in 2021

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Post by brimble »

kaba0 wrote: post #55
wwarek wrote: post #50

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My Mi Band 6 from Xiaomi easily lives ~30 days on one charge if used less (eg. no constant heart tracking, no PAI) and ~7 days with all tracking enabled (sleep, oxygen, heart rate, 1-2 workouts a day). With a third party app instead of Xiaomi "Mi Fit", I belive also all the data stays with me. That makes me wonder - what does Apple Watch do that Mi Band doesn't that makes the time on battery so much different? I gues…

Without knowing much about mi band, my guess would be embedded vs general purpose CPU’s energy consumption.

Same way Garmin does it, I'd expect: specs and restrictions that would make your average web or iOS/Android developer cry and declare it's impossible to develop useful software for.

Re: Apple in 2021

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Post by cwaffles »

gumby wrote: post #57
joconde wrote: post #51

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On the other hand, if pre-iPhone Apple could invest into inventing the iPhone, I don't see why today's Apple could balk at a new effort of this kind, since today's Apple is vastly richer. How much did the original iPhone and iPad cost to create? I imagine it would be an easy effort for 2022 Apple, and even a total failure would not dent their revenue by much. I can't imagine Cook being unable to do it.

> I can't imagine Cook being unable to do it. …and he has: AirPods, M1, Apple Watch, cleaning cloth… Also some failures that made it out the door, like HomePod… I’d like a little more focus on quality and consistency but that would mean stepping off the annual treadmill. Which they could do everyone a service by being the first to do so.

M1 was built by the PA Semi team, acquired in 2008 [0]. They build the A series chips in the iPhone, I would argue that M1 would not exist without them, furthermore, M1 was not a Cook endeavor. For the watch, it looks like the first key hire was in 2013, but there is a chance that it was not all Steve's work [1]

0. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P.A._Semi 1. https://www.wired.com/2015/04/the-apple-watch/

Re: Apple in 2021

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Post by comprev »

jhickok wrote: post #6

I love the new Apple Silicon Macs, and the transition for me has been pretty easy. I can't imagine anything interesting happening to the watch that doesn't include a big increase to battery life. I don't want any other feature except a battery that can make it a full day. Apple software has seemingly regressed every year recently. Native apps like Music and Podcasts, the only two I would regularly use, have become so…

Terrible battery life on the Apple watches is the only thing preventing me from getting one (and I'm already fully invested in the Apple ecosystem - iphone, ipad, macbook air, hackintosh desktop).

By comparison my Polar V800, which has been in constant use since 2017, can last over a month on a single charge! It tracks my movement during day and detects sleep through lack of movement.

Under heavy use - GPS, heart rate, pedal cadence and wheel speed sensors all at the same time - it can last 5-6hrs.

Outstanding piece of kit :-)

Re: Apple in 2021

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Post by asdff »

leviathant wrote: post #52
perardi wrote: post #38

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There are apologists who will insist you can do real work on an iPad—if you get the iPad Pro, and the keyboard case. Which ends up being about as expensive and about the same size as a MacBook Air. And for any work that requires any sort of interface density, or complete access to the file system, or fast I/O, or…I’d way rather have a Mac.

I was a pretty staunch opponent of the iPad for a very long time. Tablets were clearly a consumption device, and I've always disliked Apple's penchant for proprietary connectors. However, things have shifted enough that on the artistic/creative front, the iPad is actually a really nice thing to have. When the iPad Air 4 (I think? The iPad ecosystem has terrible nomenclature) came out, it not only had a USB-C connecto…

I think even today there are probably a lot more creatives using cheap wacom tablets than iPads and developing music on actual computers. Apple hasn't even bothered getting logic pro on the ipad.

Re: Apple in 2021

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Post by ericmay »

cwaffles wrote: post #74
gumby wrote: post #57

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> I can't imagine Cook being unable to do it. …and he has: AirPods, M1, Apple Watch, cleaning cloth… Also some failures that made it out the door, like HomePod… I’d like a little more focus on quality and consistency but that would mean stepping off the annual treadmill. Which they could do everyone a service by being the first to do so.

M1 was built by the PA Semi team, acquired in 2008 [0]. They build the A series chips in the iPhone, I would argue that M1 would not exist without them, furthermore, M1 was not a Cook endeavor. For the watch, it looks like the first key hire was in 2013, but there is a chance that it was not all Steve's work [1] 0. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P.A._Semi 1. https://www.wired.com/2015/04/the-apple-watch/

If you’re going to do that in good faith remember then that this applies to any acquisition. How much of Nedella’s credit now gets to go to his predecessor? Or how about Google buying YouTube or Facebook buying WhatsApp.

Also to note an idea is great but you need execution. While PA Semi may be responsible for the existence of the M1, Apple and subsequently Tim Cook are responsible for getting it in people’s hands for a grand or so.

Re: Apple in 2021

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Post by ericmay »

baby-yoda wrote: post #60
culturestate wrote: post #58

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> their endless pursuit for revenue has pushed sales and marketing people to the front of the line and product people operate in their shadows It may surprise you to learn that for a very long time, Apple’s de facto head of product (aside from Steve, obviously) was Phil Schiller. The “marketing people” have always been near the top of the food chain.

i'm no expert in the inner workings of apple but i would have considered Ive head of product. just curious as to why you put Schiller ahead? of course Marketing is an integral part of any large business and of course apple has been well above average in how their campaigns and messaging would rank in that regard. i added the commentary from Steve about the Scully era to the original post for context. from his explana…

Ive was/is a designer. Think of him more like a rockstar single contributor.

Re: Apple in 2021

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Post by Tagbert »

jhickok wrote: post #6

I love the new Apple Silicon Macs, and the transition for me has been pretty easy. I can't imagine anything interesting happening to the watch that doesn't include a big increase to battery life. I don't want any other feature except a battery that can make it a full day. Apple software has seemingly regressed every year recently. Native apps like Music and Podcasts, the only two I would regularly use, have become so…

“ except a battery that can make it a full day.”

I’m curious what use case you have where the battery doesn’t last a full day. I generally charge my 40mm S7 once a day but there is always at least a 25-30% charge remaining. I suppose if I did a multi mile bike ride while playing a podcast from the phone that might change. But otherwise it’s ok. I would love a two day charge because since days I miss the morning charge and don’t realize until I’m out of the house but that’s by not common these days.

Edit: I also do sleep tracking each night and walks most days. Battery life was similar on my older S4 up until the last six months where it started running low.

Re: Apple in 2021

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Post by jhickok »

Tagbert wrote: post #79
jhickok wrote: post #6

I love the new Apple Silicon Macs, and the transition for me has been pretty easy. I can't imagine anything interesting happening to the watch that doesn't include a big increase to battery life. I don't want any other feature except a battery that can make it a full day. Apple software has seemingly regressed every year recently. Native apps like Music and Podcasts, the only two I would regularly use, have become so…

“ except a battery that can make it a full day.” I’m curious what use case you have where the battery doesn’t last a full day. I generally charge my 40mm S7 once a day but there is always at least a 25-30% charge remaining. I suppose if I did a multi mile bike ride while playing a podcast from the phone that might change. But otherwise it’s ok. I would love a two day charge because since days I miss the morning charg…

I essentially use it for health-things. I listen to podcasts/music off of it when I run or row so I don't have to carry a phone around. Today, for example, I was at 40%-ish at around noon after putting in on around 6am and exercising for roughly 90 minutes.
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