Not everything can be solved with technology. Not every human behavior is a problem to be solved. Part of the fun of being human is all the messiness that comes with having autonomy and precisely not behaving like a mindless inanimate object subject only to physical and natural laws. Trying to “solve” human behaviors is effectively equivalent to trying to dehumanize humanity (even though it isn’t fun, of course , to…
Ask HN: What is wrong with dating in 2022?
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#42Well, likely not nearly for the first time, Darwin is on the case and working on a solution, in this case, likely just a routine application of some old, well proven techniques.
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#43let's say you have x meaningful relatinoships and y is your desired minimum number of meaningful relationships. Ignore that I'm overlooking here the very real possibility of having more connections than you'd like.
- you're all good if x / y is about or more than 1
- you're lonely if it's noticeably less
That y is kind of a function of many influences though. In particular social media encourages you to form more connections. y value goes up, so x/y probably goes down, because you probably aren't making connections as fast as you desire greater connection. Because social media technology can't magically convert your wish for greater connection into actual valuable human relationship, it just makes you lonelier. The wider a net you desire to cast, moreso. And dating apps.. you are probably swiping like on dozens if not hundreds of people before meeting up.. that x/y value is gonna hit the floor
But you know what I'm just realizing? What if there were apps that made you less lonely by making you set your y=x.. can't tell if it's bleak or healthy to reduce your expectations for connection in that way, lol..
Online isn't real, tech is not life, and probably industrial forms of economies hinder your ability to meaningfully spend sufficient amounts of time not directed towards economic output so that you could increase that x value without making a disciplined effort if it's quite low to start with.
Re: Ask HN: What is wrong with dating in 2022?
#44It’s a good question. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqldQzGV-lY One take is that online dating is going to be bad for most people (particularly men) because with a large number of matches going by people (particularly women) are going to make a rough cut on physical attractiveness. Almost all of the men participating in online dating are interested in hooking up or a longer term relationship but a lot of young wome…
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#45I like what Lex has done - it's a queer dating app that's designed to look like those old personal ads in papers. There's no images, and you're limited to four posts in a month to encourage higher quality posts.
One person told me that they've had way better success meeting people through their professional life or hobbies, because you get to know someone better by working on tasks or playing games together. She said that she wishes she could just play a game with a stranger and then have the option to chat with them after - there's an app or two I've seen in development that take a similar approach. Not sure how viable it is, but it's interesting.
Ultimately I think that there's a lot of dating issues that can't be solved with technology (say, racism) but a well-designed app can influence behavior to mitigate some issues (e.g. bumble).
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#46I've been coding a dating app in my free time and there's a lot of really interesting problems in the dating space imo. I did a lot of user interviews, and one of the frustrations I heard over and over again (across genders) is that dating apps today are largely about creating an image for yourself in the form of a profile... so your success largely comes down to your physical appearance, your ability to take good ph…
With freedom to choose the frame, in less than an hour you should know an awful lot about the other person and since you got them to talk about to talk about themselves about subjects they want to talk about you: (1) you haven't been stressing it about presentation of self and (2) they probably like you more than they did before.
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#47TL/DR: bring back the old OKCupid features. There’s a lot of pent-up demand for it. I’m surprised none of the existing comments contrast the unproductive on-line dating of today with the very successful OKCupid model of the mid 2000s to the mid 2010s. Practically everyone I know ( myself, siblings, and more college friends than I can count on one hand) met their spouse on OKCupid during this time period. The old OKCu…
Re: Ask HN: What is wrong with dating in 2022?
#48It’s a good question. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqldQzGV-lY One take is that online dating is going to be bad for most people (particularly men) because with a large number of matches going by people (particularly women) are going to make a rough cut on physical attractiveness. Almost all of the men participating in online dating are interested in hooking up or a longer term relationship but a lot of young wome…
>Almost all of the men participating in online dating are interested in hooking up or a longer term relationship but a lot of young women sign on just to get an ego boost from getting a lot of matches, then they ghost them all. Got any data to back up this assertion?
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#49Re: Ask HN: What is wrong with dating in 2022?
#50In the US, the birth rates are so low we are rapidly going extinct, literally. So, from that fact, it is fair to conclude that there are some serious problems with dating . In particular, there are a lot of weak, sick, dead limbs on the tree. Well, likely not nearly for the first time, Darwin is on the case and working on a solution, in this case, likely just a routine application of some old, well proven techniques.
The U.S. fights the ruined culture through: (1) immigration and (2) little stigma for single motherhood. Modern places where women are forced to uphold traditional values to raise kids are in free fall.