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Ask HN: Best hosted alternative to Google Workspace for email?
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Re: Ask HN: Best hosted alternative to Google Workspace for email?
#192Google Takeout will export all your mail in mbox format which is easily handled by mail programs like Apple Mail and Thunderbird and should let you sync everything to a new service (if that service won't let you transfer it themselves). I'm using iCloud+ from Apple. It's cheap at $1/mo for 50GB of space and lets me have my custom domains. $3/mo will get you family sharing and 200GB of space (if you want multiple acco…
An alternative to Microsoft 365 if you don't need anything other than email hosting is their Exchange Online plan, which is $4/month: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-365/exchange/excha... This is what I ended up switching to and it's been working fine so far. I learned from this debacle that tight-coupling email to any other service is a liability, so email-only is actually a feature for me. No GoDaddy requ…
I thought Outlook.com email was free ? Or is that something completely different or a different class tier that isn’t included in these discussions for whatever reason?
Re: Ask HN: Best hosted alternative to Google Workspace for email?
#193Google Takeout will export all your mail in mbox format which is easily handled by mail programs like Apple Mail and Thunderbird and should let you sync everything to a new service (if that service won't let you transfer it themselves). I'm using iCloud+ from Apple. It's cheap at $1/mo for 50GB of space and lets me have my custom domains. $3/mo will get you family sharing and 200GB of space (if you want multiple acco…
Yandex will do it for free up to 1,000 users.
I use Yandex. Not a heavy user, but perfectly happy with it.
Re: Ask HN: Best hosted alternative to Google Workspace for email?
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Yandex will do it for free up to 1,000 users.
I use Yandex. Not a heavy user, but perfectly happy with it.
Interestingly, I just went to register an organization on Yandex, and I'm forced to provide biz info now, including a TIN, seems like it's now inappropriate for families. Can anyone confirm this for me?
Their FAQ also states that it is only available for non-Russian residents that are businesses. Urgh.
Re: Ask HN: Best hosted alternative to Google Workspace for email?
#195Google Takeout will export all your mail in mbox format which is easily handled by mail programs like Apple Mail and Thunderbird and should let you sync everything to a new service (if that service won't let you transfer it themselves). I'm using iCloud+ from Apple. It's cheap at $1/mo for 50GB of space and lets me have my custom domains. $3/mo will get you family sharing and 200GB of space (if you want multiple acco…
Does iCloud+ with custom domains support adding labels, e.g. youremail+label@domain.com?
Yes. It does
Re: Ask HN: Best hosted alternative to Google Workspace for email?
#196Migadu (https://www.migadu.com/)
Migadu prices per volume of emails not per domain. So you could have 20 domains and only send/receive 10 emails a month between them all and you’ll pay pennies versus almost everywhere else where just the act of having another domain (regardless of usage) incurs cost.
I use them and they are singularly focused on email (no bloat), have a range of power features in all plans like + domains (similar to Google), filters etc.
They are also hosted in France so you get the added benefit of being subject to EU data protection laws.
Re: Ask HN: Best hosted alternative to Google Workspace for email?
#197You can still use the Gmail UI with a custom domain for free. All you need is a mail server. Once it's set up, configure a free Gmail account to fetch your email with IMAP and send from your domain with SMTP. Now you own your email but still get the Gmail UI as long as you want to use it, for free, with the option to use any other client you want as well.
Why would you want to use the Gmail UI though? I’ve found it to be one of the slowest, most bloated and resource-heavy web apps I use. It’s nothing like the Gmail of 10+ years ago when Google actually cared about the product.
My experience with mail clients has been pretty poor in general. I haven't done a survey recently but all the others I've tried in the past have been slow too, and the search and spam filtering did not work as well.
Re: Ask HN: Best hosted alternative to Google Workspace for email?
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How does FastMail handle tags? I tried Zoho but it's pretty terrible compared to how Gmail works. What I'd like is: 1) To be able to assign tags based on rules 2) To be able to view those tags in IMAP clients (Gmail exposes labels as IMAP folders) 3) To be able to Archive mail so they are no longer in the Inbox, but so the tag remains (in Gmail, 'Inbox' is just a tag that is removed when you Archive mail) Zoho fails…
FastMail doesn't have tags. What it does have? Let me copy/paste my comment from another thread: They have subdomain addressing, which is kind of like plus addressing, but better (not all places let you sign up with plus addressing). I've got my own domain, for example: mydomain.com. So my fastmail email address is depingus@mydomain.com. But with subdomain addressing, I can sign up for services with unique email addr…
You don't have to have the alias set up ahead of time, but you do need DNS set up for every subdomain you want, which means you can't just do it for every signup/account
Re: Ask HN: Best hosted alternative to Google Workspace for email?
#199Migadu ( https://www.migadu.com/ ) Migadu prices per volume of emails not per domain. So you could have 20 domains and only send/receive 10 emails a month between them all and you’ll pay pennies versus almost everywhere else where just the act of having another domain (regardless of usage) incurs cost. I use them and they are singularly focused on email (no bloat), have a range of power features in all plans like + d…
I use Migadu too, but currently use Gmail as the client (Migadu over IMAP). I do that because pricing on storage is terrible.
Migadu used to have unlimited storage, but made all their plans worse (and more expensive) during the pandemic. Now even the $9/mo account has only 30GB.
Also as Migadu has no calendar, I use my Gmail calendar. I am trying to get off Google though, so maybe Fastmail is a good alternative
Re: Ask HN: Best hosted alternative to Google Workspace for email?
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Cloudflare's email routing offering seems to be a good fit for this as far as I can tell.
No SMTP though, so that fixes 50% of the problem.
Seems like it's not a replacement then. If you can't send from the domain, you'd be sending from your gmail, which is no good.