I'm very happy with Protonmail
I really like ProtonMail but the lack of usable search kills me. I definitely get that it’s kinda the point but from a UX standpoint it’s rough.
Ask HN: Best hosted alternative to Google Workspace for email?
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Re: Ask HN: Best hosted alternative to Google Workspace for email?
#182How is self-hosted email these days? Are there web-based email clients with search, filters, and labels?
Zimbra is the defecto mail solution for an integrated (mail calendar chat) solution. Horde is still the best solution for something completely FOSS. Outside of that there’s mailu which feels like a bunch of services flying in unison.. kinda like an old GM.
All of this to say it’s not worth hosting your email because your smtp server doesn’t have any reputation. I had a mail server that never sent spam or junk mail, was online for over 8 years on the same IP and I still had emails blocked or black holed. Not to mention all of your mail will just go to spam the first few times. Very unprofessional and not worth it in my mind.
Re: Ask HN: Best hosted alternative to Google Workspace for email?
#183Also went looking for an alternative and moved everyting to mailbox.org...
Be aware that Mailbox.org allows any user to send emails as ("from") any other user via SMTP and these emails will look legit since they pass SPF and DKIM checks. Many consider this a security issue. There was a quite lengthy discussion about this in their forum but they deleted it since. They refused to fix it. Archive.org still has it. Content is in German (sorry): https://web.archive.org/web/20210123192856/https:/…
That’s a huge security issue! Geez.
If anybody realizes you’re using that service they can immediately impersonate you.
Re: Ask HN: Best hosted alternative to Google Workspace for email?
#184Earlier quoted context omitted.
Be aware that Mailbox.org allows any user to send emails as ("from") any other user via SMTP and these emails will look legit since they pass SPF and DKIM checks. Many consider this a security issue. There was a quite lengthy discussion about this in their forum but they deleted it since. They refused to fix it. Archive.org still has it. Content is in German (sorry): https://web.archive.org/web/20210123192856/https:/…
Anyone willing to spin up a mail server can do this. DKIM and SPF are only intended to establish the identity of the server. I don't know that there is any obligation on the part of someone running a mail server to police the "From:" address on an email in some specific way. Traditionally the "From:" address was considered informational. It generally represents the address that the sender considers "their" email addr…
If you’re using DMARC the from and the DKIM signature must be aligned or it doesn’t pass. Simply passing any DKIM check isn’t enough.
Re: Ask HN: Best hosted alternative to Google Workspace for email?
#185Infomaniak is great, starting at 1,50€/month for 5 email addresses, custom domains and unlimited space. They have a real support with humans.
Re: Ask HN: Best hosted alternative to Google Workspace for email?
#186Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you want to try Apple’s: I have tried the iCloud+. It’s unstable, incomplete. Barely not shitty. Deliberately sparsely and vaguely documented. Their support employees don’t know the features around custom domain, HideMyEmail etc and refuse to accept anything about it on email and then being typical Apple they simply say no to saying anything on email - hell, there is no email you can contact them. They tell you “y…
Why not just use simplelogin? Buy your own email domain and you can create random emails on the fly. Like if you're prompted to input your email you can use the name of the prompter companyxyz@yourdomain.com and it'll forward it to your regular mailbox. It's fantastic.
Actually if you just need that you can just add something random on your domain and mail will be delivered on that email just using catch-all feature that even some basic providers like mailbox.org provide, you don’t need any additional service layer for that. Sending emails from those addresses become tricky and cumbersome.
Re: Ask HN: Best hosted alternative to Google Workspace for email?
#187Moved an account from Google Apps to Fastmail. Great experience. I moved 9GB worth of old emails.
Re: Ask HN: Best hosted alternative to Google Workspace for email?
#188Google Takeout will export all your mail in mbox format which is easily handled by mail programs like Apple Mail and Thunderbird and should let you sync everything to a new service (if that service won't let you transfer it themselves). I'm using iCloud+ from Apple. It's cheap at $1/mo for 50GB of space and lets me have my custom domains. $3/mo will get you family sharing and 200GB of space (if you want multiple acco…
I just moved my domain email over to Zoho following this news ($1/mo, was easy to set up). Seems to be working. Didn't feel like paying Google $6/mo.
Re: Ask HN: Best hosted alternative to Google Workspace for email?
#189I'm very happy with Protonmail
I looked at ProtonMail but ended up going with Zoho as it was cheaper and seems to work. Proton looked pretty nice.
Re: Ask HN: Best hosted alternative to Google Workspace for email?
#190All I want is a mail provider that will dump wild cards into my Gmail box. What's the best tool for that? I don't mind the Google Borg... but I'm not willing to pony up $$$ for simple wildcard email delivery.
Migadu, Mxroute, or just cloudflares free email routing.