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Re: For some searches the whole screen on Google is now ads

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Post by ipaddr »

gxs wrote: post #112
jws wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

…a limit to how user-hostile a tech giant can be before it really starts to hurt their bottom line… Reading that line I just realized that google lost me as a YouTube viewer in the past two weeks. I used to follow a bunch of ~100k subscriber channels that produced content every couple of weeks on building things and how to build things. I'd generally watch one or two 10-30 minute videos a day. They've cranked the ads…

I quit because I was getting 2-3 30 second ads per video, 5 minute videos that is. Ended up getting an ad blocker on my iphone and deleting the app. I now have to use youtube.com and settle for 720p, but it's far and away better than the shit ads it served. Don't get me started on the relevancy of the ads.

You don't have to settle for 720p change the quality 720p is the default

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Post by bee_rider »

endisneigh wrote: post #73
dessant wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is how search results for "car rentals new york" look like on my display, there are no organic results above the fold. https://i.imgur.com/CFeWDY1.png As for your question, there is no point in trying to replicate results for the same query, search results and the displayed ads can wildly differ for the same query based on a large number of factors.

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Well, in this case it exists to delimit between the ads and the bottom of the screen, because the ads have completely crowded out the desired content.

Re: For some searches the whole screen on Google is now ads

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Post by dylan604 »

soheil wrote: post #100
enumjorge wrote: post #36

The Facebook stock debacle from yesterday makes me think that maybe there is a limit to how user-hostile a tech giant can be before it really starts to hurt their bottom line. For a while it seemed like companies like FB had captured enough of the market that they seemed impervious to backlash from their many controversies, too big to fail in a way. It’s too early to tell if this is the beginning of FB’s demise, but…

FB is not losing because it's user-hostile. It simply was outcompeted by TikTok because it has a better and more engaging video product.

FB went with jacking people's emotion with rage, fear, and other scare tactics. Monsters Inc however showed us there's more power in laughter than screams. It's a shame nobody on FB's board ever watched a movie.

Re: For some searches the whole screen on Google is now ads

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Post by srgpqt »

jws wrote: post #90
enumjorge wrote: post #36

The Facebook stock debacle from yesterday makes me think that maybe there is a limit to how user-hostile a tech giant can be before it really starts to hurt their bottom line. For a while it seemed like companies like FB had captured enough of the market that they seemed impervious to backlash from their many controversies, too big to fail in a way. It’s too early to tell if this is the beginning of FB’s demise, but…

…a limit to how user-hostile a tech giant can be before it really starts to hurt their bottom line… Reading that line I just realized that google lost me as a YouTube viewer in the past two weeks. I used to follow a bunch of ~100k subscriber channels that produced content every couple of weeks on building things and how to build things. I'd generally watch one or two 10-30 minute videos a day. They've cranked the ads…

I started using the Vinegar iOS app to remove ads and other crap from youtube. Still surprised that Apple hasn’t pulled it from their store (afaik).

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Post by slyzmud »

jws wrote: post #90
enumjorge wrote: post #36

The Facebook stock debacle from yesterday makes me think that maybe there is a limit to how user-hostile a tech giant can be before it really starts to hurt their bottom line. For a while it seemed like companies like FB had captured enough of the market that they seemed impervious to backlash from their many controversies, too big to fail in a way. It’s too early to tell if this is the beginning of FB’s demise, but…

…a limit to how user-hostile a tech giant can be before it really starts to hurt their bottom line… Reading that line I just realized that google lost me as a YouTube viewer in the past two weeks. I used to follow a bunch of ~100k subscriber channels that produced content every couple of weeks on building things and how to build things. I'd generally watch one or two 10-30 minute videos a day. They've cranked the ads…

Have you tried Youtube premium? We always say companies should move out of the ad revenue model and start charging for the services instead of pushing more ads. For me, paying Youtube premium has been a great decision.

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Post by [deleted] »

endisneigh wrote: post #79
lelandfe wrote: post #66

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> I, frankly, suspect you're a troll at this point. It's sad how any resistance and the resistor must be a troll. Even in your own video without adblock the ads display sparingly. If you count the instance you'll see that after reduction (meaning you take the average distance from the first link) the "correct" link is probably #3 or #2.

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Re: For some searches the whole screen on Google is now ads

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Post by scyzoryk_xyz »

I work in medical education related tech and I make content. I spend a lot of time searching for information related to medicine online - knowledge aimed more at the actual medical practitioners. One of the big irritants in this research is how much the ad model has warped everything to be centered on the patient. I'm not totally blocked but I do feel hindered. For example if I'm looking for a procedure it's far more likely for the results to be from sources which dilute and simplify because they're intended on selling patients on something.

If I were presented with an information search product capable of being aware of my specific needs and adapting itself for these needs, I could probably convince my higher-ups to actually pay for something like this. I really wish I could get the same experience doing medical research as the one I get when searching programming related questions, which often return detailed explanations on stackoverflow, actual documentation and other valuable content.

On another and somewhat different note I'm from a specific European country and I've noticed searching in my language in topics related to my country is even worse. If I'm searching for important information regarding something specific for my country, like taxes/institutional affairs, the google search is basically unusable because the results are infested with obnoxious endless clickbait/GDPRconsent/cookies/garbage/websites. I vividly remember how search results in my country used to return forums and conversations, but from what I understand everyone is on FB groups which aren't displayed. There is so much out there being talked about that doesn't seem to 'exist' in the eyes of a search algo.

Weird times.

Re: For some searches the whole screen on Google is now ads

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Post by blueberrychpstx »

jws wrote: post #90
enumjorge wrote: post #36

The Facebook stock debacle from yesterday makes me think that maybe there is a limit to how user-hostile a tech giant can be before it really starts to hurt their bottom line. For a while it seemed like companies like FB had captured enough of the market that they seemed impervious to backlash from their many controversies, too big to fail in a way. It’s too early to tell if this is the beginning of FB’s demise, but…

…a limit to how user-hostile a tech giant can be before it really starts to hurt their bottom line… Reading that line I just realized that google lost me as a YouTube viewer in the past two weeks. I used to follow a bunch of ~100k subscriber channels that produced content every couple of weeks on building things and how to build things. I'd generally watch one or two 10-30 minute videos a day. They've cranked the ads…

Oh and on mobile ios they’ve removed the ability to sort channel videos by popularity or age…

Popular sort was a great way to find what a new channel was about

Re: For some searches the whole screen on Google is now ads

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Post by ForOldHack »

varispeed wrote: post #118

Now that Google has killed their G suite accounts I am looking to move everything somewhere else and planning to completely stop using any of their services. What would you recommend to jump to (paid service)? What tools I could use to move my emails? (I have my own domains etc.)

This sounds like a grand top level question. I am in the same boat.
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