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Re: For some searches the whole screen on Google is now ads

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Post by soperj »

krackers wrote: post #67
omnicognate wrote: post #12

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You're not duckduckgo's customer either (their primary revenue source is keyword based advertising), or the customer of anything else you don't pay for. The only one I know of that at least plans to have a simple two-way relationship with search users as their customers is Kagi. Currently it's in free beta with a waitlist (took a week for me). When they go live they intend it to be a paid, subscription service with n…

>Currently it's in free beta with a waitlist (took a week for me) When did you apply? I filled out their survey at the end of december and haven't even received a confirmation email. I tried again a few weeks back with a gmail address, and still nothing. So I guess at least it's already at Google-level customer service.

I heard back pretty promptly.

Re: For some searches the whole screen on Google is now ads

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Post by endisneigh »

dessant wrote: post #70
endisneigh wrote: post #9

Did anyone replicate this? I couldn’t on desktop and mobile. Seems like flame bait

This is how search results for "car rentals new york" look like on my display, there are no organic results above the fold. https://i.imgur.com/CFeWDY1.png As for your question, there is no point in trying to replicate results for the same query, search results and the displayed ads can wildly differ for the same query based on a large number of factors.

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Re: For some searches the whole screen on Google is now ads

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Post by yabones »

systemvoltage wrote: post #25
ssss11 wrote: post #2

Yeah I’ve noticed this too. But also the rest of the front page is often either seo spam (like those Pinterest links which catch whatever search term you’ve used) or shopping sites. I’ve found google search to be increasingly hostile to its customers. I guess we’re not the customers. Use duckduckgo or something else.

I'd pay $10/month for a nerd-only, developer-friendly, pro-small-biz, precision search that works like 2008 version of Google. Something that I use dozens of times a day, is totally worth paying for. It is inevitable. It's coming. Algolia? Please?

I've seen some people mention Kagi[1], but it's a closed beta. Hope they're successful, because I would also gladly pay $10/month to get a search engine that actively resists spam.

[1] https://kagi.com/

Re: For some searches the whole screen on Google is now ads

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Post by endisneigh »

olyjohn wrote: post #65
endisneigh wrote: post #40

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what's after the fold? Why do you crop it so it only shows ads? so ridiculous. Google will almost never show more than 5 sponsored ads or some combination of 2-3 ads and sponsored modal. same is true with Bing, DDG, Startpage, etc. this scenario of all of the results being ads is nonexistent. again if anyone can show me a reproducible query in which all results are ads, $5 - easy. omg DDG 100% ads !111 https://imgur.…

You didn't even read my comment you replied to. Did you not see where I said that I scrolled down past the ads to look at all the totally legit SEO spam?

> Did you not see where I said that I scrolled down past the ads to look at all the totally legit SEO spam?

meaningless because that's an subjective thing.

Re: For some searches the whole screen on Google is now ads

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Post by dessant »

endisneigh wrote: post #73
dessant wrote: post #70

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This is how search results for "car rentals new york" look like on my display, there are no organic results above the fold. https://i.imgur.com/CFeWDY1.png As for your question, there is no point in trying to replicate results for the same query, search results and the displayed ads can wildly differ for the same query based on a large number of factors.

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I think your comments in this thread are made in bad faith.

Re: For some searches the whole screen on Google is now ads

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Post by endisneigh »

olyjohn wrote: post #69
mikeyouse wrote: post #52

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I didn't crop it.. that's the point.. on the native resolution of my computer, doing a search for that specific term shows 100% ads after clicking "search".. Obviously you can scroll past them, maybe that's why you're confused? Nobody's saying the search results are only ads, they're saying that the only results that are shown to consumers without some action on their part are ads...

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I love how you're on a YC Combinator forum criticizing other people about worshipping corporations.

I care about accuracy and quantifiable metrics. I can show screenshots for Bing, DDG, and Google showing all ads. OK what's the point? What percentage of results on the first page for each are ads. More accurate and easier to compare.

By the way, if you want to attack Google you should attack them for things that actually matter, like their egregious Play Store fees and anti competitiveness by misleading buyers in their ad bidding market, tax evasive, anti-trust, and adherence to censorship in various countries.

Re: For some searches the whole screen on Google is now ads

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Post by endisneigh »

lelandfe wrote: post #66
endisneigh wrote: post #56

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This is not true. Ads are preslotted - so you might not get the same ads, but you will get the same number of ads.

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> I, frankly, suspect you're a troll at this point.

It's sad how any resistance and the resistor must be a troll.

Even in your own video without adblock the ads display sparingly. If you count the instance you'll see that after reduction (meaning you take the average distance from the first link) the "correct" link is probably #3 or #2.

Re: For some searches the whole screen on Google is now ads

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Post by cmckn »

To be fair, it depends on the screen. The submission makes it sound like the whole first page is ads, but there’s 4 ads at the top instead of the usual 2-3. It happens to extend to the fold in this Twitter user’s browser.

I scroll past all ads out of habit[0], so honestly this doesn’t impact my Google usage. Wish I didn’t have to train that muscle, but here we are. :(

[0] my pihole breaks the links anyway

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