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It's already being sold by other companies. The cat has been out of the bag for years, you're just being notified. Don't attack the messenger.
Other companies sold trackers which could already use every single iphone/ipad in existence to track their whereabouts???? That's complete news to me. Can you name any of them??
Samsung Trackers might have even more devices than Apple does
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What's the threshold over which you believe crime is no longer okay? AirPods Max? Only $549. A MacBook? Only $2000. A car? Only $20000. Does someone have to burn my house down for it to be worthwhile for the police?
Believe it or not, these thresholds have effectively existed in the US forever. It's why we have small claims courts, misdemeanors vs felonies, traffic violations, etc. > What's the threshold over which you believe crime is no longer okay? You completely missed the parent's point. It's not that they don't think crime should be "no longer be okay", it was addressing the the grandparent's point of "we're living in a th…
Fake news: there's actually very few places where this would be true. You are being told that because in these countries most people are poor and afraid of losing their hard earned money/stuff more than in America generally. Doesn't mean it's likely to happen at all. Most of the times directly violent crimes don't pay as well as drug dealing, and the criminals sure know it: there's favelas in Sao Paulo and Rio where if there's a thief on the territory, drug gangs will hunt him down: they know drug clients need to feel secure to go in there and spend money.
Once I had my car stolen near the uni I was attending, and also near a favela. One of my colleagues lived there, and I told him the fact: next day he told me drug gangs assured him, and he was assuring me, that they would investigate and if the thief was found to be a local resident they would find him and return my car. The car was found 2 days after the fact, in very bad condition with a hole underneath the motor (they were probably using it to go into ramps/offroad), by the police, in another favela a few miles away - by the looks of it, the thiefs didn't want to gain money on this: they took the car only to have drinks and fun and trash it, then abandon it.
Or you can load your own firmware to any other embedded device with Bluetooth and also make it totally undetectable from iPhones by changing keys frequently and making it appear like multiple different AirTags. https://github.com/seemoo-lab/openhaystack/
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You can buy devices with GPS and cellular data.
True! I believe the unique paring here with the Apple tags is that the device is very small and piggybacks off of iPhones, and has a year+ battery. I don't believe GPS + cell devices can get there on the battery department, but I might be wrong. Putting something in someone's car once is a lot easier than putting something in someone's car and then recharging it once every couple of days.
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Isn't the major difference that it's built into iOS, whereas stuff like Tile requires other people to have that app installed? It's not like these devices have GPS installed, they're reliant on devices around them to do the reporting.
You can buy devices with GPS and cellular data.
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Other companies sold trackers which could already use every single iphone/ipad in existence to track their whereabouts???? That's complete news to me. Can you name any of them??
Chipolo does Samsung Trackers might have even more devices than Apple does Tile
Samsung Trackers work only with some of their phones - there is absolutely no chance in hell that Samsung sold more of those than Apple has sold iphones globally. I'll eat my own hat if they did.
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Hopefully, this time, we won't overcorrect. We need to clamp down on crime without crushing the underprivileged under the fist of heavy handed policing. Policies like stop and frisk really do work at reducing crime. But they also increase the abuse of civil liberties. Especially in those who don't have the resources to fight back in court. And who pays when people do fight back and get huge settlements for trampling…
We can pass laws against giving huge settlements to those that choose to illegally fight against law enforcement.
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A quick search on Amazon for 'gps tracker' will yield at least one option on the first page for $29.99. GSM for communications. Not as small as an AirTag, but 1.5 inches by 0.9 by 0.6 inches isn't exactly huge either. A legitimate point is that the battery life isn't great. But that's not too hard to solve, if you tolerate a little more space for a bigger battery. I'm sure there are even better options out there, tha…
Monthly fee?
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The problematic tech is not AirTags. It is that every iPhone unwittingly participates in a global network to help “stalk” the AirTag. The ubiquitous distribution of iPhones is the part that makes this successful and scary. Tile or samsung for example wouldn’t be as accurate
That’s not problematic. That’s literally the value add.
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You can buy devices with GPS and cellular data.
True! I believe the unique paring here with the Apple tags is that the device is very small and piggybacks off of iPhones, and has a year+ battery. I don't believe GPS + cell devices can get there on the battery department, but I might be wrong. Putting something in someone's car once is a lot easier than putting something in someone's car and then recharging it once every couple of days.