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Every iPhone (and Android and dumbphone) was coopted into a global surveillance network from the very beginning.
Previously, it didn't help random creeps to find home address of a girl he saw in a grocery store. Now, with AirTags it is rather trivial. Thanks, Apple.
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#322Taping them together tightly silences it. Airtags have to be the most nerfed product I've bought. Day one, they were fantastic. Then they lowered the beeping and rogue alerts to a threshold my wife gets them from my keys or wallet all the time. Then they just beep randomly. I regret buying them to be honest. Tile never really got harped on for stalking. The samsung trackers work just as well as Apple and don't have a…
Tile is amazing. But all this AirTag stuff has me worried stalkers will switch to Tile, and then Tile will get ruined the same way. I wish we had a fully open alternative with the same global tracking network.
https://www.theverge.com/2021/12/9/22820381/tile-life360-loc...
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The questions, as asked, are lacking in tangible reality dynamics and are phrased with bias. My first response to the first version of that loaded question: "_I wasn't saying they should_..." You respond with: "If Company A builds a product/service, why should Company B be expected to utilize Company A's work without compensation?" Am I to believe you're being genuine here? Should I really repeat myself again, in tex…
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Sure, right after you show me where I mentioned a second company, and that they should be able to access Apple's network without compensation.
Hell, I'll accept you showing where I mentioned a first company by name.
You can do better than low effort trolling.
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They could NOT sell the tech. It's a choice.
The tech is simple enough that many others have released it already and it provides a lot of benefit to the world. I'm glad they put consideration in to how it could be abused and think the world is net better off with airtags.
Tile or samsung for example wouldn’t be as accurate
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The tech is simple enough that many others have released it already and it provides a lot of benefit to the world. I'm glad they put consideration in to how it could be abused and think the world is net better off with airtags.
The problematic tech is not AirTags. It is that every iPhone unwittingly participates in a global network to help “stalk” the AirTag. The ubiquitous distribution of iPhones is the part that makes this successful and scary. Tile or samsung for example wouldn’t be as accurate
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Apple still has some weird atomization issues for a company which is going all-in on family stuff. This is the company which ran out a credit card and payments infrastructure with serious fanfare— and, incredibly, no provisions for married people having joint accounts. None, they added it later when dhh and Steve Wozniak made a stink about it.
Using a shared iPad with a family is a bad experience with all kinds of Apple account issues. Other apps Netflix/Amazon/etc. thankfully provide quick user switching which makes it tolerable.
Lots of problems like this.
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#327Earlier quoted context omitted.
The tech is simple enough that many others have released it already and it provides a lot of benefit to the world. I'm glad they put consideration in to how it could be abused and think the world is net better off with airtags.
The problematic tech is not AirTags. It is that every iPhone unwittingly participates in a global network to help “stalk” the AirTag. The ubiquitous distribution of iPhones is the part that makes this successful and scary. Tile or samsung for example wouldn’t be as accurate
It was very much a choise made by Apple to build and release it. Technology is not neutral.
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#328There’s not really any way to make something that can reliably find your own stuff without also enabling stalking. Either you support the use case and the downsides or not
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I love my AirTags because they actually have a functional tracking network. I've lost items outside the house with a Tile tracker attached and it proved to be entirely worthless for actually finding my stuff. They simply don't have a good network.
This is a place for a generic open protocol. To have a real internet of things we need some kind of DNS but for objects.
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They could NOT sell the tech. It's a choice.
It's already being sold by other companies. The cat has been out of the bag for years, you're just being notified. Don't attack the messenger.
It's not like these devices have GPS installed, they're reliant on devices around them to do the reporting.