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Post by emodendroket »

pulse7 wrote: post #127
pmalynin wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We’ll it’s interesting in this case, because technically speaking a peace treaty was never signed and North Korea is in the state of war with the United States. So is it really a crime to attack a hostile state?

Wars can end without peace treaty. Just see the history: there were many more wars than peace treaties...

It was not that long ago that whether to formally end the Korean War or not was the subject of spirited debate. Like, a few years ago. You guys telling me the War is actually over should have told them they didn't need to waste their time.

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mlyle wrote: post #112
capableweb wrote: post #90

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> North Korea is in the state of war with the United States I'm not sure where this comes from, but you're now the second person I see on HN to say this ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29896969 ). Is this "common knowledge" in the US or something? Here is what I said the last time: >> The US and KP are technically still at war (the Korean war stopped with a cease fire, not a treaty) and the US and its allies l…

None of the US wars since WWII have been formally declared wars. They're still wars. The conflict with North Korea ended with an armistice, not a formal treaty. The armistice intended for peace treaty discussions to start 3 months later... and they never really did. The US, UN Command, and North Korea are still operating under a temporary cease-fire that's now basically 70 years old. (I don't think South Korea even s…

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mrbald wrote: post #159
tomphoolery wrote: post #151

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Tell that to the North Koreans :P

Looks like every man and his dog is an expert on North Koreans. Did it occur to you that most citizen there are hostages of the own state and may be fighting hard to get a piece of bread on the table? I highly doubt they give a shit to the US, or the internet or the hacker wars of any kind.

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Re: North Korea hacked him, so he took down its internet

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Post by spaetzleesser »

pmalynin wrote: post #44
ballenf wrote: post #2

I would have advised him to stay quiet about this. Not out of fear of the North Koreans, but out of fear of our own security agencies seeing the activity as interfering in international relations. Also the vagueness of our hacking laws probably make what he did a crime. But I also am immensely proud that we have people willing to take things into their own hands when needed. Also, I feel like the 2nd amendment should…

We’ll it’s interesting in this case, because technically speaking a peace treaty was never signed and North Korea is in the state of war with the United States. So is it really a crime to attack a hostile state?

“So is it really a crime to attack a hostile state?”

I don’t know if it’s illegal per se but it’s definitely a dangerous game. If there are any misunderstandings things like this could lead to retaliation and ultimately armed conflict.

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Post by more_corn »

pmalynin wrote: post #44
ballenf wrote: post #2

I would have advised him to stay quiet about this. Not out of fear of the North Koreans, but out of fear of our own security agencies seeing the activity as interfering in international relations. Also the vagueness of our hacking laws probably make what he did a crime. But I also am immensely proud that we have people willing to take things into their own hands when needed. Also, I feel like the 2nd amendment should…

We’ll it’s interesting in this case, because technically speaking a peace treaty was never signed and North Korea is in the state of war with the United States. So is it really a crime to attack a hostile state?

Is this the first time a civilian has been able to perpetrate an attack on a country? I find the novelty of it amusing.

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Post by beckman466 »

pmalynin wrote: post #44
ballenf wrote: post #2

I would have advised him to stay quiet about this. Not out of fear of the North Koreans, but out of fear of our own security agencies seeing the activity as interfering in international relations. Also the vagueness of our hacking laws probably make what he did a crime. But I also am immensely proud that we have people willing to take things into their own hands when needed. Also, I feel like the 2nd amendment should…

We’ll it’s interesting in this case, because technically speaking a peace treaty was never signed and North Korea is in the state of war with the United States. So is it really a crime to attack a hostile state?

> technically speaking a peace treaty was never signed and North Korea is in the state of war with the United States. So is it really a crime to attack a hostile state?

that seems to be standard US foreign policy. it's probably actually worse in reality; where the US even 'intervenes' even if it does have a peace treaty with them. [1]

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_r...

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Post by narag »

more_corn wrote: post #226
pmalynin wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We’ll it’s interesting in this case, because technically speaking a peace treaty was never signed and North Korea is in the state of war with the United States. So is it really a crime to attack a hostile state?

Is this the first time a civilian has been able to perpetrate an attack on a country? I find the novelty of it amusing.

Is this the first time a civilian has been able to perpetrate an attack on a country?

That's the definition of terrorism when it's not "domestic terrorism".

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Post by regem »

more_corn wrote: post #226
pmalynin wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We’ll it’s interesting in this case, because technically speaking a peace treaty was never signed and North Korea is in the state of war with the United States. So is it really a crime to attack a hostile state?

Is this the first time a civilian has been able to perpetrate an attack on a country? I find the novelty of it amusing.

It's happened before. It's where the term "filibuster" comes from. As an example, an American named William Walker briefly took control of Nicaragua.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filibuster_War

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Post by coolspot »

arbitrage wrote: post #50
sudobash1 wrote: post #3

> So after a year of letting his resentment simmer, P4x has taken matters into his own hands. “It felt like the right thing to do here. If they don’t see we have teeth, it’s just going to keep coming,” says the hacker. Frankly, I feel that international relations are going poorly enough without vigilantes poking the bear. And also, I doubt that bringing down their network infrastructure will have the desired effect o…

NK's capabilities are vastly overblown. Calling it a "bear" is part of their disinformation strategy, just like Russia. You're amplifying their propaganda.

Russia did hack NSA though [1], and elections, and pipelines, and who knows what else.

[1] - https://www.wired.com/story/eternalblue-leaked-nsa-spy-tool-...

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