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Re: North Korea hacked him, so he took down its internet

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Post by GiorgioG »

pawelmurias wrote: post #185
ShrigmaMale wrote: post #173

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No offense but why would I care at all what a non-American thinks? They are not governed by this law and so have 0 say in what it should be since it is not a rights violation. I am only sorry you all live with such a lack of a basic right and find it normal. From the other perspective: gun rights are under constant attack from fearmongering media and I find that bonkers. All it takes is one (1) psycho POS shooting up…

I hate that pro gun propaganda is seeping in to our country and gun access is getting more relaxed allowing psychos to get armed. I want my right not to get shot to be intact. The police isn't also assuming you are armed during routine stops so they aren't so trigger happy.

> I hate that pro gun propaganda is seeping in to our country and gun access is getting more relaxed allowing psychos to get armed.

What "pro gun propaganda" is this exactly? Gun access is not getting more relaxed - talk about propaganda. The Federal form you are required to fill out at any gun shop in the country asks you to declare whether you have ever been adjudicated as mentally defective or have ever been confined in a mental institution. Answering Yes will result in your firearm purchase being denied.

We can't know ahead of time that someone is going to go off the deep end and go on a shooting spree. You can't legislate this risk away short of banning guns completely and confiscating all of them, which is unrealistic/impossible. Let's ban alcohol as well because it kills twice as many people as guns do (half of which are suicides) annually.

I'm an independent that shares plenty of the Democrat party's positions, but gun control isn't one of them. Guns are tools than can be used and misused like any other tool.

Re: North Korea hacked him, so he took down its internet

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Post by rmak »

pawelmurias wrote: post #185
ShrigmaMale wrote: post #173

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No offense but why would I care at all what a non-American thinks? They are not governed by this law and so have 0 say in what it should be since it is not a rights violation. I am only sorry you all live with such a lack of a basic right and find it normal. From the other perspective: gun rights are under constant attack from fearmongering media and I find that bonkers. All it takes is one (1) psycho POS shooting up…

I hate that pro gun propaganda is seeping in to our country and gun access is getting more relaxed allowing psychos to get armed. I want my right not to get shot to be intact. The police isn't also assuming you are armed during routine stops so they aren't so trigger happy.

I hate how pro abortion is seeping in to our country and psychos being able to abort babies. So what can I do. You win some and then you lose some.

Re: North Korea hacked him, so he took down its internet

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Post by wchar_t »

threshold wrote: post #202

This idiot. Took down a countries internet and bragged to the press. I wonder how many doctors in NK couldn't serve their patients without network access? But why stop there? Take out the power as well. Contaminate the water. We'll all have a good laugh. No wonder they're building missiles to shoot at us. This hacker franchise has run its course. Ok it was a fun movie in 1995. But in our modern world what this guy ha…

Calm down, he took down a few websites. He didn't take down their entire internet, as the article notes a few times:

> As rare as it may be for a single pseudonymous hacker to cause an internet blackout on that scale, it's far from clear what real effects the attacks have had on the North Korean government. Only a tiny fraction of North Koreans have access to internet-connected systems to begin with, says Martyn Williams, a researcher for the Stimson Center think tank's North Korea-focused 38 North Project. The vast majority of residents are confined to the country's disconnected intranet. Williams says the dozens of sites P4x has repeatedly taken down are largely used for propaganda and other functions aimed at an international audience.

> While knocking out those sites no doubt presents a nuisance to some regime officials, Williams points out that the hackers who targeted P4x last year—like almost all the country's hackers—are almost certainly based in other countries, such as China. “I would say, if he's going after those people, he's probably directing his attentions to the wrong place,” says Williams. “But if he just wants to annoy North Korea, then he is probably being annoying.”

> For his part, P4x says he would count annoying the regime as a success, and that the vast majority of the country's population that lacks internet access was never his target. “I definitely wanted to affect the people as little as possible and the government as much as possible,” P4x says.

Re: North Korea hacked him, so he took down its internet

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Post by [deleted] »

wongarsu wrote: post #143
mlyle wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

None of the US wars since WWII have been formally declared wars. They're still wars. The conflict with North Korea ended with an armistice, not a formal treaty. The armistice intended for peace treaty discussions to start 3 months later... and they never really did. The US, UN Command, and North Korea are still operating under a temporary cease-fire that's now basically 70 years old. (I don't think South Korea even s…

If you're technically not at war then you can't at the same time be technically still at war. Neither side declared war against the other or is currently acting like they are at war, thus they aren't at war.

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Post by threshold »

wchar_t wrote: post #213
threshold wrote: post #202

This idiot. Took down a countries internet and bragged to the press. I wonder how many doctors in NK couldn't serve their patients without network access? But why stop there? Take out the power as well. Contaminate the water. We'll all have a good laugh. No wonder they're building missiles to shoot at us. This hacker franchise has run its course. Ok it was a fun movie in 1995. But in our modern world what this guy ha…

Calm down, he took down a few websites. He didn't take down their entire internet, as the article notes a few times: > As rare as it may be for a single pseudonymous hacker to cause an internet blackout on that scale, it's far from clear what real effects the attacks have had on the North Korean government. Only a tiny fraction of North Koreans have access to internet-connected systems to begin with, says Martyn Will…

"would count annoying the regime as a success"

Idiot.

Re: North Korea hacked him, so he took down its internet

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Post by nsxwolf »

wongarsu wrote: post #143
mlyle wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

None of the US wars since WWII have been formally declared wars. They're still wars. The conflict with North Korea ended with an armistice, not a formal treaty. The armistice intended for peace treaty discussions to start 3 months later... and they never really did. The US, UN Command, and North Korea are still operating under a temporary cease-fire that's now basically 70 years old. (I don't think South Korea even s…

If you're technically not at war then you can't at the same time be technically still at war. Neither side declared war against the other or is currently acting like they are at war, thus they aren't at war.

I would add to the “at war” column: the VFW (Veterans of Foreign Wars) grants membership to any US service members who have been stationed in South Korea.

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Post by emodendroket »

capableweb wrote: post #90
pmalynin wrote: post #44

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We’ll it’s interesting in this case, because technically speaking a peace treaty was never signed and North Korea is in the state of war with the United States. So is it really a crime to attack a hostile state?

> North Korea is in the state of war with the United States I'm not sure where this comes from, but you're now the second person I see on HN to say this ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29896969 ). Is this "common knowledge" in the US or something? Here is what I said the last time: >> The US and KP are technically still at war (the Korean war stopped with a cease fire, not a treaty) and the US and its allies l…

And who signed the armistice agreement that "ended" the war?

If you are wondering why this is "common knowledge" in the US it might be because just a few years ago there were questions about whether this state of affairs should be changed. https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2019/02/27/donald-tru...

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Post by emodendroket »

mrbald wrote: post #159
tomphoolery wrote: post #151

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Tell that to the North Koreans :P

Looks like every man and his dog is an expert on North Koreans. Did it occur to you that most citizen there are hostages of the own state and may be fighting hard to get a piece of bread on the table? I highly doubt they give a shit to the US, or the internet or the hacker wars of any kind.

So then you're the expert on North Koreans' lives I suppose. Unlike the other fakers who are saying things you dislike.
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