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Re: Facebook loses users for the first time

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Post by paxys »

GCA10 wrote: post #58

Peak coffee consumption (per capita/US): 1946 Peak cigarette consumption (per capita/US): 1963 Peak oil production (global): unknown, maybe 2020-2030 Peak Facebook: ?? That's an incomplete peer group, but I find it interesting that at some point, society does start to unplug from addictive substances. The tapering off is quite slow, though. Unclear whether heavy users cut back, or new generations just don't develop t…

Big difference in comparing an entire product area with a specific company and brand. Individual cigarette companies, coffee shops etc. have been going in an out of fashion the entire time. Similarly, the total number of social media users is nowhere near its peak.

I'd say it is actually remarkable just how long Facebook (the site) has been able to maintain relevance, whereas people should have been bored and migrated to something newer and shiner a long time ago (as is now finally happening with apps like TikTok).

Re: Facebook loses users for the first time

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Post by willbw »

chrisseaton wrote: post #68
GCA10 wrote: post #58

Peak coffee consumption (per capita/US): 1946 Peak cigarette consumption (per capita/US): 1963 Peak oil production (global): unknown, maybe 2020-2030 Peak Facebook: ?? That's an incomplete peer group, but I find it interesting that at some point, society does start to unplug from addictive substances. The tapering off is quite slow, though. Unclear whether heavy users cut back, or new generations just don't develop t…

Wow I had no idea Americans used to drink more coffee than now. Surely serving sizes have grown and grown - absolutely nobody was having a 20-ounce coffee in 1946, but now that's normal. Doesn't seem to add up but I'm sure you're right.

I am assume this doesn't refer to "volume of coffee beverage" consumed. As far as I'm aware only the US seems to gravitate towards these extremely large coffee beverages. Other nations drink more coffee, but in smaller serving sizes less diluted by milk/sugar.

Perhaps the US used to drink espressos in the 1940s, I'm not sure. That's if this fact is even accurate.

Re: Facebook loses users for the first time

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Post by dboreham »

woodruffw wrote: post #56
shaunpud wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It really gets me down when local/state emergency services etc. use it as their primary means of news/updates.

This has always irked me. Perhaps it's heavy handed, but I would love a law that (1) requires governments at all levels to use open-access websites (and radio, a local newspaper of record, &c.), and (2) requires services like Facebook to syndicate any news and updates.

This is probably already the case : I can access my local government entities' FB pages without logging in to FB. Google indexes the pages so you don't need the FB search feature to find them.

Re: Facebook loses users for the first time

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Post by Infernal »

woodruffw wrote: post #56
shaunpud wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It really gets me down when local/state emergency services etc. use it as their primary means of news/updates.

This has always irked me. Perhaps it's heavy handed, but I would love a law that (1) requires governments at all levels to use open-access websites (and radio, a local newspaper of record, &c.), and (2) requires services like Facebook to syndicate any news and updates.

Interesting that you would name a newspaper of record as a valid outlet for government news/updates. I feel like Facebook could make an argument for being essentially that today - after all, it is where the eyeballs are, which is why people use it for marriage announcements, birth announcements, classifieds, obituaries.... and on and on.

Re: Facebook loses users for the first time

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Post by annadane »

bpodgursky wrote: post #64
annadane wrote: post #46

Literally all Zuckerberg has to do is not be the kind of person he is... his product itself did achieve success in that a huge number of people are using it, but then he had to prove himself to have no ethical standards

Literally all Zuckerberg has to do is be the same person who made him worth $80 billion.

Your point is taken, but I think it's kind of clear Facebook's only strategies are "lie" and "copy/buy everyone else"

Re: Facebook loses users for the first time

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Post by zenithd »

GCA10 wrote: post #58

Peak coffee consumption (per capita/US): 1946 Peak cigarette consumption (per capita/US): 1963 Peak oil production (global): unknown, maybe 2020-2030 Peak Facebook: ?? That's an incomplete peer group, but I find it interesting that at some point, society does start to unplug from addictive substances. The tapering off is quite slow, though. Unclear whether heavy users cut back, or new generations just don't develop t…

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Re: Facebook loses users for the first time

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Post by fouc »

ProAm wrote: post #10

When the metaverse actually launches they will skyrocket. They were smart to pivot early. Saying the 'metaverse' is on FB right now is similar to people selling acres on the Moon before anyone landed. FB is planting an imaginary flag on the 'metaverse' hoping they can technically catch up to their claims and capitalize on it.

You sound like an NFT believer

Re: Facebook loses users for the first time

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Post by snypher »

whiskyant wrote: post #72
XorNot wrote: post #3

Which is impressive because I still have Facebook I just don't login and never use any of its services - the account now exists to simply hold a lock on my name on the service. I suspect I'm not the only one doing this.

I don't use the main Facebook app much, but I use Instagram and Messenger daily, Whatsapp sometimes as well. What do you use for your friend group chats?

I just use a simple group SMS.

Re: Facebook loses users for the first time

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Post by chaostheory »

spywaregorilla wrote: post #85
chaostheory wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm long on Meta as well and I really like the Quest (2), but the metaverse already had a soft launch. What Meta has been able to accomplish so far is impressive, but it's still not enough. What's the status quo with VR problems? - Price: This was fixed with Quest 2 - Complexity: This was also fixed with Quest. - Socially acceptable: Nope. Even when you remove the issue of the toxicity surrounding Facebook's brand, m…

VR is gimmicky, like the Wii. Its full of worlds with great freedom of movement that are designed to hide the fact that you have very limited freedom of movement.

> designed to hide the fact that you have very limited freedom of movement.

That highly depends on your setup. The more physical space you have, the better if you want to move.

> VR is gimmicky, like the Wii.

Have you even used modern VR yet before panning it? Google Cardboard is ancient and doesn't count as modern VR. I ask because this answer tends to come from people who haven't tried it.

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