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Facebook loses users for the first time

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Re: Facebook loses users for the first time

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Post by kumarvvr »

annadane wrote: post #46

Literally all Zuckerberg has to do is not be the kind of person he is... his product itself did achieve success in that a huge number of people are using it, but then he had to prove himself to have no ethical standards

Hitting quarterly numbers, amassing wealth and power is difficult to do if he is not doing what he does.

Human greed has no limits. And once someone gets a taste of that amount of wealth and power, it is difficult to not get morally and ethically corrupt, either directly, or by turning a blind eye to reality.

Re: Facebook loses users for the first time

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Post by whiskyant »

XorNot wrote: post #3

Which is impressive because I still have Facebook I just don't login and never use any of its services - the account now exists to simply hold a lock on my name on the service. I suspect I'm not the only one doing this.

I don't use the main Facebook app much, but I use Instagram and Messenger daily, Whatsapp sometimes as well.

What do you use for your friend group chats?

Re: Facebook loses users for the first time

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Post by dmitryminkovsky »

ikt wrote: post #53
studmuffin650 wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think they only lost a half million users (which wouldn't even show up as a blib on that number)

This may be like the first time McDonalds posted a loss: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/2688665.stm I still remember it and the changes that came after it, the McDonalds of today is nothing like the McDonalds of 2003. We'll see what Facebook does, I assume buy out Snapchat or Tiktok or some other product where the kids hang out.

> I still remember it and the changes that came after it, the McDonalds of today is nothing like the McDonalds of 2003.

Building remodels aside, what are you referring to? They have chicken wraps and salads? Otherwise it seems more or less the same McDonalds of my childhood?

Re: Facebook loses users for the first time

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Post by Tempest1981 »

voisin wrote: post #22
XorNot wrote: post #3

Which is impressive because I still have Facebook I just don't login and never use any of its services - the account now exists to simply hold a lock on my name on the service. I suspect I'm not the only one doing this.

This would be reflected in change to Monthly Active Users which seems way more relevant than total users.

I also see them using "Family daily active people (DAP)" and monthly active people (MAP). https://investor.fb.com/investor-news/press-release-details/...

I wonder if that counts unique/distinct people, taking into consideration a person with multiple accounts -- FB, IG, WhatsApp, etc.

Re: Facebook loses users for the first time

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Post by spywaregorilla »

GCA10 wrote: post #58

Peak coffee consumption (per capita/US): 1946 Peak cigarette consumption (per capita/US): 1963 Peak oil production (global): unknown, maybe 2020-2030 Peak Facebook: ?? That's an incomplete peer group, but I find it interesting that at some point, society does start to unplug from addictive substances. The tapering off is quite slow, though. Unclear whether heavy users cut back, or new generations just don't develop t…

> Peak coffee consumption (per capita/US): 1946

This one interested me. We're at a local maximum in terms of coffee consumption in recent years. After WWII coffee fell off in popularity and due to the substitute of carbonated soft drinks. Most likely in simplest terms it was a cheaper energy drink for the poor.

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Post by whiskyant »

zwieback wrote: post #32
systemvoltage wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is just me or there seems to be a strange lack of criticism about TikTok on the same or stricter level than FB. Especially that it is a Chinese company HQ’ed in Beijing. Neither do I ever see discussion about the asymmetry in China’s trade policies with regards to FB/Tiktok. Tiktok enjoys free market access (except India), whereas FB is banned in China just like many other US-based platforms. On the contrary, ther…

I think it's because of the perception TikTok=cat and dance videos, FB=misinformation. At least that's what my feeds looks like. Also: TikTok=kids, FB=adults

TikTok has plenty of misinformation, Twitter too.

Re: Facebook loses users for the first time

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Post by saimiam »

mythrwy wrote: post #43

When Facebook first started getting users I tried to access it from a script using Lynx. I don't remember why but it was nothing nefarious, I think I simply wanted to download something for GF periodically. I got a message that said "We aren't cool enough to support your browser". Something about the sarcastic snootiness of the message really angered me and prevented me from ever opening a Facebook account. Later I b…

Tbh, you don’t have a point of view on Facebook that people have come around to. You didn’t like FB for their condescension. Today people are walking out of fb for their business practices (and ppbly a myriad other reasons).

Your reason and theirs have little overlap though it could be argued that condescension is a symptom of internal malaise which is also reflected in shady business practices which is causing users to now abandon FB.

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Post by fishtacos »

monkeybutton wrote: post #2

Its already frustrating enough having to use Facebook just to look up a restaurant's information, the set times for a concert, or whatever about a local business or event. If all that stuff starts to disappear behind a meta-verse wall, I might just leap off the nearest bridge instead.

Thanks for putting into words what I've been noticing and feeling. There's something dreadful that ephemerally appears whenever a service or someone links to an FB page.

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Post by fouc »

rudyfink wrote: post #63
monkeybutton wrote: post #2

Its already frustrating enough having to use Facebook just to look up a restaurant's information, the set times for a concert, or whatever about a local business or event. If all that stuff starts to disappear behind a meta-verse wall, I might just leap off the nearest bridge instead.

Yes, it feels like a return to the walled-garden days of America Online, Prodigy, CompuServe, etc. Essentially, they seem to be want to create a separate network that they control--one that is not "internet-ed" to other networks in an open fashion.

That's an interesting comparison, I never before thought of AOL, Prodigy, and CompuServe as belonging to the walled-garden.

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Post by baby-yoda »

kumarvvr wrote: post #66
GCA10 wrote: post #58

Peak coffee consumption (per capita/US): 1946 Peak cigarette consumption (per capita/US): 1963 Peak oil production (global): unknown, maybe 2020-2030 Peak Facebook: ?? That's an incomplete peer group, but I find it interesting that at some point, society does start to unplug from addictive substances. The tapering off is quite slow, though. Unclear whether heavy users cut back, or new generations just don't develop t…

I think it has more to do with alternatives (except perhaps in case of cigarettes which have direct measurable health effects) availability rather than society starting to unplug from addictive substances. Peak coffee is in 1946, but what have consumers moved onto from then? Alcohol, Tea, Energy drinks, Soft Drinks ?

Soft drinks mostly, but even that appeared to be in the early stages of tapering as of 2005. What is next?

https://www.ers.usda.gov/webdocs/charts/58920/finding_buzbyf...

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