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North Korea hacked him, so he took down its internet

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Re: North Korea hacked him, so he took down its internet

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Post by butlerm »

rootusrootus wrote: post #65
Shank wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The 2nd amendment already has interpretation questions around the first half -- the "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State," clause. It could go in any number of directions, from expanding "arms" to include "digital arms" to reducing the right only to "as part of a well regulated militia." See: https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/second_amendment But I wouldn't bet money on the right e…

> given the glacial pace of constitutional law review OTOH, the SCOTUS has achieved a political supermajority and will probably move much faster with policy changes now.

The Supreme Court does not make policy, at most it stops other branches from making certain kind of policies, when presented an opportunity to do so when resolving an actual case or controversy.

Re: North Korea hacked him, so he took down its internet

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Post by pessimizer »

TedDoesntTalk wrote: post #63
pessimizer wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But doesn't love Osama Bin Laden, although Afghanistan certainly suffered more from US involvement than the US has suffered from North Korea, whose people it killed millions of.

When did the US kill millions of North Koreans? Do you mean the Korean War in the 1950s?

Yes, I'm referencing the event that formed North Korea.

Re: North Korea hacked him, so he took down its internet

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Post by mrkstu »

zentiggr wrote: post #52
mrkstu wrote: post #39

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Yes, he's exhausting their quiver of easy/cheap and instead they'd be forced to waste zero days right up front.

Well, if they're not going to use them to find and shut down the NK hackers, then they should step aside for those who will. (Of course, there could be deeper ops from the CISA side, but if their only cost is having to lose older vulns, so be it.)

The difference of course being, is that they don't want to shut them down during a time of relative peace. Getting them to harden their presence now is strategically a waste.

In the extremis they can always bring in the orbital cannons and overwhelm them of course.

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Post by archontes »

yostrovs wrote: post #79
sbierwagen wrote: post #76

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>You can't own a firearm if you consume marijuana In what state?

When purchasing a firearm, that is one of the questions in the Federal application, and you're not allowed to lie.

The federal application for a Federal Firearms License, the license needed to be a firearm vendor, not the (as far as I can tell) non-existent federal license to own one?

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Post by kingkawn »

tehjoker wrote: post #17

So your tools get stolen and you take down possibly critical infrastructure for huge numbers of people? Terrorism. Imagine someone did that to America in response to the NSA hacking them (read, most of the world's population all the time since the Bush administration). We celebrate that when it's done to official enemies.

Did you read the article?

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Post by foepys »

jokoon wrote: post #84

What do they mean "north korea hacked him" ? Does NK hire hackers? How is it possible for NK to have competent hackers?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bureau_121

North Korea successfully stole tens of millions by hacking banks via SWIFT between 2015 and 20216 and probably several hundreds of millions in crypto currency in 2021 alone.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-59990477

NK apparently has a very capable cyber warfare unit and hacking crypto currency wallets/exchanges is a major income for them.

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Post by AdrianB1 »

ballenf wrote: post #2

I would have advised him to stay quiet about this. Not out of fear of the North Koreans, but out of fear of our own security agencies seeing the activity as interfering in international relations. Also the vagueness of our hacking laws probably make what he did a crime. But I also am immensely proud that we have people willing to take things into their own hands when needed. Also, I feel like the 2nd amendment should…

The second does not grant anything, so it's not applicable for this case. Consider "digital assault weapons ban" as the closest concept.

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Post by capableweb »

pmalynin wrote: post #44
ballenf wrote: post #2

I would have advised him to stay quiet about this. Not out of fear of the North Koreans, but out of fear of our own security agencies seeing the activity as interfering in international relations. Also the vagueness of our hacking laws probably make what he did a crime. But I also am immensely proud that we have people willing to take things into their own hands when needed. Also, I feel like the 2nd amendment should…

We’ll it’s interesting in this case, because technically speaking a peace treaty was never signed and North Korea is in the state of war with the United States. So is it really a crime to attack a hostile state?

> North Korea is in the state of war with the United States

I'm not sure where this comes from, but you're now the second person I see on HN to say this (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29896969). Is this "common knowledge" in the US or something?

Here is what I said the last time:

>> The US and KP are technically still at war (the Korean war stopped with a cease fire, not a treaty) and the US and its allies levy sanctions on them that hurt.

> Technically, I don't think the US and North Korea ever been at war. South Korea and North Korea are technically still at war though, as they signed the treaty with each other, not the US.

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