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North Korea hacked him, so he took down its internet

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Re: North Korea hacked him, so he took down its internet

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Post by jonp888 »

snowwrestler wrote: post #31
ballenf wrote: post #2

I would have advised him to stay quiet about this. Not out of fear of the North Koreans, but out of fear of our own security agencies seeing the activity as interfering in international relations. Also the vagueness of our hacking laws probably make what he did a crime. But I also am immensely proud that we have people willing to take things into their own hands when needed. Also, I feel like the 2nd amendment should…

The 2nd Amendment says the government can’t infringe your right to possess arms. It does not say that it’s legal for you to use your arms against others to make a point. “Digital arms” are legal to possess in the U.S. as far as I know. Again, that is not the same thing as legalizing any use of them.

Do bear in mind that the way this interpreted under US law is considered by most non-Americans to be completely bonkers, and is only sustained by strong, uncompromising activist pressure.

I doubt the NRA would organize a picket to defend your right to run PGP.

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Post by heavyset_go »

ballenf wrote: post #2

I would have advised him to stay quiet about this. Not out of fear of the North Koreans, but out of fear of our own security agencies seeing the activity as interfering in international relations. Also the vagueness of our hacking laws probably make what he did a crime. But I also am immensely proud that we have people willing to take things into their own hands when needed. Also, I feel like the 2nd amendment should…

You can't own a firearm if you consume marijuana, so using the 2nd amendment for things like encryption might get interesting. The 2nd amendment allows for heavy regulation of arms.

Re: North Korea hacked him, so he took down its internet

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Post by MichaelZuo »

not2b wrote: post #23
jelling wrote: post #16

> “I want them to understand that if you come at us, it means some of your infrastructure is going down for a while.” Doing that is one thing, and certainly won't increase your personal safety. Doing that and telling the western press to embarrass them is insanely stupid. Kim Jong-un is widely believed to have ordered the assassination of his half-brother. And you want to threaten the infrastructure of his country? T…

It's not infrastructure. He attacked a few propaganda sites aimed at outside audiences. He didn't get into their internal network, which is sealed off from the Internet.

It’s make one wonder if most of the other posters even bothered to read the details.

Re: North Korea hacked him, so he took down its internet

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Post by jdonaldson »

ballenf wrote: post #2

I would have advised him to stay quiet about this. Not out of fear of the North Koreans, but out of fear of our own security agencies seeing the activity as interfering in international relations. Also the vagueness of our hacking laws probably make what he did a crime. But I also am immensely proud that we have people willing to take things into their own hands when needed. Also, I feel like the 2nd amendment should…

It's hard to see how North Korea is taken seriously by anyone these days.

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Post by lostgame »

heavyset_go wrote: post #72
ballenf wrote: post #2

I would have advised him to stay quiet about this. Not out of fear of the North Koreans, but out of fear of our own security agencies seeing the activity as interfering in international relations. Also the vagueness of our hacking laws probably make what he did a crime. But I also am immensely proud that we have people willing to take things into their own hands when needed. Also, I feel like the 2nd amendment should…

You can't own a firearm if you consume marijuana, so using the 2nd amendment for things like encryption might get interesting. The 2nd amendment allows for heavy regulation of arms.

There’s gotta be a lot of rappers breaking that rule. :P Dr. Dre, I’m looking at you.

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Post by sbierwagen »

heavyset_go wrote: post #72
ballenf wrote: post #2

I would have advised him to stay quiet about this. Not out of fear of the North Koreans, but out of fear of our own security agencies seeing the activity as interfering in international relations. Also the vagueness of our hacking laws probably make what he did a crime. But I also am immensely proud that we have people willing to take things into their own hands when needed. Also, I feel like the 2nd amendment should…

You can't own a firearm if you consume marijuana, so using the 2nd amendment for things like encryption might get interesting. The 2nd amendment allows for heavy regulation of arms.

>You can't own a firearm if you consume marijuana

In what state?

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Post by sjg007 »

Shank wrote: post #54
ballenf wrote: post #2

I would have advised him to stay quiet about this. Not out of fear of the North Koreans, but out of fear of our own security agencies seeing the activity as interfering in international relations. Also the vagueness of our hacking laws probably make what he did a crime. But I also am immensely proud that we have people willing to take things into their own hands when needed. Also, I feel like the 2nd amendment should…

The 2nd amendment already has interpretation questions around the first half -- the "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State," clause. It could go in any number of directions, from expanding "arms" to include "digital arms" to reducing the right only to "as part of a well regulated militia." See: https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/second_amendment But I wouldn't bet money on the right e…

Arms vs weapons of mass destruction? Digital arms could fall into the latter category.

Re: North Korea hacked him, so he took down its internet

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Post by causi »

an attempt to draw attention to what he sees as a lack of government response to North Korean targeting of US individuals. “If no one ’s going to help me, I’m going to help myself,” he says.

Good. I'm sick of foreign policy being determined by spreadsheets that say whether defending ourselves or others will be profitable.

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Post by yostrovs »

sbierwagen wrote: post #76
heavyset_go wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can't own a firearm if you consume marijuana, so using the 2nd amendment for things like encryption might get interesting. The 2nd amendment allows for heavy regulation of arms.

>You can't own a firearm if you consume marijuana In what state?

When purchasing a firearm, that is one of the questions in the Federal application, and you're not allowed to lie.

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Post by throwaway6734 »

sbierwagen wrote: post #76
heavyset_go wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can't own a firearm if you consume marijuana, so using the 2nd amendment for things like encryption might get interesting. The 2nd amendment allows for heavy regulation of arms.

>You can't own a firearm if you consume marijuana In what state?

All of them? Marijuana is still a schedule 1 substance
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