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North Korea hacked him, so he took down its internet

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Re: North Korea hacked him, so he took down its internet

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I would have advised him to stay quiet about this. Not out of fear of the North Koreans, but out of fear of our own security agencies seeing the activity as interfering in international relations. Also the vagueness of our hacking laws probably make what he did a crime. But I also am immensely proud that we have people willing to take things into their own hands when needed. Also, I feel like the 2nd amendment should…

If he were bombing NK infrastructure, would you be prouder?

Re: North Korea hacked him, so he took down its internet

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Implying that the hacking attributed to NK might have been a false flag?

Indeed another person quoted in the article suggests that the hacking might have come from China.

That's the wrong takeaway from that bit though I think. I believe they are saying that China and other states are the actors on behalf of NK not that they are using NK as patsies ... granted that may also be true. International politics and espionage is a weird domain.

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> “I want them to understand that if you come at us, it means some of your infrastructure is going down for a while.” Doing that is one thing, and certainly won't increase your personal safety. Doing that and telling the western press to embarrass them is insanely stupid. Kim Jong-un is widely believed to have ordered the assassination of his half-brother. And you want to threaten the infrastructure of his country? T…

It's not infrastructure. He attacked a few propaganda sites aimed at outside audiences. He didn't get into their internal network, which is sealed off from the Internet.

Re: North Korea hacked him, so he took down its internet

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It's good that he went public about it, as this is the sort of thing that can cause international tensions when the target assumes it's a state-sponsored attack. So many cyberattacks by individuals or small crime outfits get misinterpreted as state-sponsored because they're "sophisticated".

Things are really easy to misinterpret, like when Ukraine's undercover attempt to capture Russian PMC soldiers resulted in Belarus thinking Russia was attempting a coup in Belarus.

Re: North Korea hacked him, so he took down its internet

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I would have advised him to stay quiet about this. Not out of fear of the North Koreans, but out of fear of our own security agencies seeing the activity as interfering in international relations. Also the vagueness of our hacking laws probably make what he did a crime. But I also am immensely proud that we have people willing to take things into their own hands when needed. Also, I feel like the 2nd amendment should…

If he were bombing NK infrastructure, would you be prouder?

Well, the world certainly loves Nelson Mandela.

Re: North Korea hacked him, so he took down its internet

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post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If he were bombing NK infrastructure, would you be prouder?

Well, the world certainly loves Nelson Mandela.

But doesn't love Osama Bin Laden, although Afghanistan certainly suffered more from US involvement than the US has suffered from North Korea, whose people it killed millions of.

Re: North Korea hacked him, so he took down its internet

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post #11

I would imagine the intelligence services aren't happy he's providing them free pen-test services. He's taking potential tools out of their toolbox when they may need/want them in a future time of conflict.

The article says he’s exploiting known (ancient) vulnerabilities

Re: North Korea hacked him, so he took down its internet

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I see comments saying that he may be interfering with actual operations against NK or that now that he has done this they are more likely to patch their systems and be more secure, contradicting his own intentions. It's also entirely possible that this action, including the WIRED article and it's high visibility, is part of a broader effort and strategy. In reality we just won't know in this type of situation. Any ca…

True. He may not even exist.

Re: North Korea hacked him, so he took down its internet

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I would imagine the intelligence services aren't happy he's providing them free pen-test services. He's taking potential tools out of their toolbox when they may need/want them in a future time of conflict.

So if the reds start parachuting down over your community you should just sit pretty lest you interfere with your military’s operations? The equivalence is not a false one in my eyes because a cyberattack against a US national’s systems should be seen as an attack on a US national’s property.

If they send a small aircraft onto your territory you shouldn't light it up with all your SAMs and take it down, because that will allow them to locate your SAMs for SEAD.
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