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Re: Starlink Premium

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What are you doing that demands more than 40 mbps?

I work with gigabytes of data daily at my job. I want those upload speeds to increase. Plus, I want to start getting into gaming again and none of my friends will play with me with that internet speed LOL

Are there games that take multiple Mbps to play? I thought they usually took 10s of Kbps or less, and latency was the metric to watch.

Re: Starlink Premium

#162

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Maybe when the open source community successfully executes manned space missions, we can free ourselves from the tyranny of proprietary satellite technology…

They could've published their documentation so it would be possible to build a client terminal yourself out of readily available parts. You'll still have to pay for the service itself, obviously. And I'm not talking about satellites themselves, only about the user equipment.

This isn't WiFi. A starlink terminal is complex. It isn't something you can cobble together with readily available parts.

For that matter, it's amazing to me what WiFi can do, and yet you can buy a WiFi device for a couple of dollars!

Re: Starlink Premium

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Anyone with a fiber connection available is absolutely not the target market for starlink. It is meant for rural users with few better options. In fact, dense urban or suburban areas would overload the satellites, so subscribers in those areas will need to be limited.

I'm still not 100% convinced on the size of this market. Rural FTTH rollouts are happening and over the next 5-10 years I think will get everywhere you have grid electricity. I constantly see people on the starlink Reddit cancelling their preorders or service because they can get FTTH or cable. There's no doubt it's an amazing technical achievement, and a huge improvement for many people. But I am somewhat struggling…

Don't you think at least some of the FTTH rollouts are because the ISP realizes they've got to upgrade or lose business to Starlink?

Re: Starlink Premium

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Unfortunately this is partly due to FCC regulations.

Why would FCC add such limitations?

The FCCs mandate is to protect the airwaves from interference. Starlink uses shared bands. if the receivers move, tracking down interference is harder.

Re: Starlink Premium

#166

$500/month for 350Mbps! What exactly is Elon been smoking?! Okay, it's mobile... given you have electricity, of course, but if you have electricity, won't you have other options as well?

Nope plenty of land in USA (and some other developing nations.) , where slow phone lines or not even that is an option. Maybe you have an ISP and want a backup, or maybe you have limited bandwidth and want more, etc. This thing is also mobile. Maybe you are touring show/band/tradeshows and sometimes venue provided internet is crap and want a backup. Or maybe you are youtube/regular TV show inspired by mythbusters , t…

This speaks so badly about America, but you're right - I know at least two pretty large and heavily-populated dead spots in the heart of Irvine, California.

Re: Starlink Premium

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Starlink won't really ever be designed to compete with wired internet. There is limited bandwidth per satellite, and the density of most places that have good wired internet far exceeds what is reasonable on the current generation of satellites. It's designed for people who are currently suffering on geostationary satellite internet, or some other low-bandwidth/high-latency setup.

Exactly. I'm typing this out over a first-gen Starlink connection, and the value is a lot better than most people realize. My other options include: - 4g hotspot, 150ms latency, ~15gb/month, speeds of ~10-20mbps, costs $50 + $15/gb overage per month - WISP network, 400ms latency, unlimited data at 500kbps-6mbps, ~95% uptime, costs $80/month - HughesNet satellite, 600ms latency, 50gb/month, less than 10mb/s down, 90%…

With the spread of 5G mid and high band home internet service I wonder if that might not cover enough ground at some point to make it worthwhile. Verizon is actually selling it as unlimited internet for a decent price. I don't know about other carriers.

Re: Starlink Premium

#168

Can we get a $50/mo Starlink Budget?

There will definitely eventually be cheaper options. But not for a while and likely not in America. The satellites are unused over Africa etc, and they can't pay $100 per month. But until the manufacturing cost of the dishes comes down, a cheaper option is unlikely.

Re: Starlink Premium

#169

The: > UNLIMITED SERVICE LOCATIONS Almost seems designed to get people's hopes up only to squash them again. What people have been asking for is an RV/camping/sailing Starlink they can use moving, and that product has yet to materialize. Announcing that: > Order as many Starlinks as needed and manage all of your service locations, no matter how remote, from a single account. Is niche, and is only going to confuse peo…

> What people have been asking for is an RV/camping/sailing Starlink they can use moving, and that product has yet to materialize.

What people? You? Most people want usable Internet at home.

Also, you can use a Starlink on the move just fine, just like I did. Keep changing your service location before you arrive. Takes a second, there are no limits (that I have found).

https://blog.oxplot.com/powering-starlink-on-the-go-with-tes...

(don't try to pick on all the mods I've done - you can use a regular inverter)

Re: Starlink Premium

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The number of people who have a summer home is extremely high. Having two dishes, or one dish that can be used from two set points is very attractive. Lots of people spend the summer "at the cabin" even when the cabin isn't in the Hamptons. Or they may live out of a motor home, but it only moves to travel between their regular winter destination and their regular summer destination. They stay in the same two parks al…

> According to NAHB estimates, the total count of second homes was 7.5 million https://eyeonhousing.org/2020/10/nations-stock-of-second-hom... > The United States had an official resident population of 331,449,281 on April 1, 2020, according to the U.S. Census Bureau https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demography_of_the_United_State... https://www2.census.gov/programs-surveys/decennial/2020/data... I'm not saying 7.5M isn'…

Nearly 10% of the local ISPs' subscribers are motor home snowbirds. They don't show up in NAHB statistics. Homeowner snowbirds increase that number. Starlink is definitely a matter of attention for local ISPs.
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